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    I really do think its fatigue

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    There are plenty of moving parts here, including the absence of Rudy, but I think you put the finger on the current problem both for DeMar and the team. We had built up good chemistry, and now we are back at square one trying to integrate Pau.
    So the question is, when Rudy comes back, does Pau become a bench warmer?

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    This thread is very insensitive and irresponsible..

    DeRozan has a long history of mental health issues, which is far more important than the game of basketball..Spurs fans should be supporting him and trying to understand what he's going through, rather than turning their backs on him..
    This

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    This thread is very insensitive and irresponsible..

    DeRozan has a long history of mental health issues, which is far more important than the game of basketball..Spurs fans should be supporting him and trying to understand what he's going through, rather than turning their backs on him..

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    So the question is, when Rudy comes back, does Pau become a bench warmer?
    Would be good, but because Pop is Pop... nah. Pau will play and get paid too much.

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    I think it is a combination of fatigue, and the emotional high/letdown of the Toronto game. Next month there's the game in Toronto, it may be an even bigger deal. But it will fade, thereafter, I think.

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    I don't understand how a vet NBA player can be fatigued at 29 years old in his prime (just after posting an MVP caliber season). I guess players aren't really taking care of their bodies the way they did in the past. Or they don't have access to LeBron's HGH guy.


    Or is it that someone is telling him for the first time in his career that he has to play defense and try to distribute the ball

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    I don't understand how a vet NBA player can be fatigued at 29 years old in his prime (just after posting an MVP caliber season). I guess players aren't really taking care of their bodies the way they did in the past. Or they don't have access to LeBron's HGH guy.


    Or is it that someone is telling him for the first time in his career that he has to play defense and try to distribute the ball
    But you do understand how excuses work, right?

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    I think it is a combination of fatigue, and the emotional high/letdown of the Toronto game. Next month there's the game in Toronto, it may be an even bigger deal. But it will fade, thereafter, I think.
    27.7 millions a year for emotional high/letdown?

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    This thread is very insensitive and irresponsible..

    DeRozan has a long history of mental health issues, which is far more important than the game of basketball..Spurs fans should be supporting him and trying to understand what he's going through, rather than turning their backs on him..
    This comment is totally inappropriate. People with mental health disorders still must learn to cope with stressors in their everyday lives, including negative stigma about mental health disorders. If you play basketball and you happen to have major depressive disorder, one of your challenges is going to be overcoming criticism from people who don't understand major depression. If you can't overcome that, you'll never overcome your depression.

    Demar isn't going to read this thread anyway, so how could it possibly affect him?

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    It is frustrating but I actually do think there is hope for him. There was a point when LMA seemed pretty hopeless with his soft play, but I think its clicked for him how effective he can be if he plays like a bully. At some point, DeRozan also has to make a change and focus on playmaking bc he's actually really good at it (6 apg is solid af) and let the scoring come to him. There's been stretches when he's been really good about doing that but as of late (probably bc he's in a bad slump) he's been forcing a lot of stupid . He just has to fully buy in.

    White is perfect at it, you look up and he has 18 points by the end of the night but basically nothing is forced. Almost always makes the smart/correct play.

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    probably a mix of mental fatigue and not being so good at basketball? He showed several moments of "tunnel vision", his differential until then was that he managed to switch from "scorer" to "playmaker" smoothly, so his irregular performances (when it happened) did not hurt the team at that time, in this moment he is clearly trying to force something that is not there, simple as that.

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    hh37 doing work

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    He needs to drive!! Take it in with force. Focus frustrations on taking it in. The refs will have no choice but to do their jobs eventually. Don't whine around though. idc how re ed he is.

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    He played well in the first few games of the season, didn't he? Averaging like 25/6/6 or something like that.

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    He played well in the first few games of the season, didn't he? Averaging like 25/6/6 or something like that.
    He played phenomenal. He was closing out.

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    The guy is due for a slump. LMA had an even bigger one earlier this year and now that he is playing well, we easily forget. Slumps happens to most players. I don't think it is fatigue. He might be tired but I think it is a combination of slump, LMA playing better, Derrick White emergence, and injuries. Let's hope that everything is righted by allstar break.

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    It’s sad and funny people are actually falling for his troll post

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    It’s sad and funny people are actually falling for his troll post
    He speaks as if he's talking from experience. I can't relate because I've never had depression but for someone who makes 27.7M/year, he should be able to afford the best psychiatrist/life coach money can buy. Depression is a life long affliction but you don't have to let it consume you. If he needs help, all he has to do is ask. No sympathy from me for somebody who doesn't help himself.

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    Ain't he from Compton? How you from Compton and get depressed because you play professional basketball for 27 million per year? I don't have any understanding for that. It might just be something in his personal life, we don't know. I just hope he can get back to his normal self and we don't see DeFrozan in the playoffs, that'll be a recipe for disaster.

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    If this stretches out into late February then it can be a concern. Right now I just think overall the team is missing Rudy Gay's minutes. He really stablizes the team.

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    The ignorance in the posts above is scary

    Money doesn't cure depression, there are plenty of rich people who commit suicide..the toughness instilled from where you grew up doesn't fix chemical imbalance, either

    I'm not referring to the way he's playing and his struggles as a player, but moreso arguing against those questioning why he's been "whining" more and "letting it get in his head"..

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    The ignorance in the posts above is scary

    Money doesn't cure depression, there are plenty of rich people who commit suicide..the toughness instilled from where you grew up doesn't fix chemical imbalance, either

    I'm not referring to the way he's playing and his struggles as a player, but moreso arguing against those questioning why he's been "whining" more and "letting it get in his head"..
    Not only do the morons on this site lack basketbll knowledge they actually lack common sense as well No matter how much money you make or what tough neighborhood you come from that can't offset a clinical chemical imbalance. DeRozan is playing like garbage right now but people should leave at that.

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    Ever since Pau got rotation minutes.... DeRozan play has sucked (is it 3 straight games)?

    Pau ruined a certain team chemistry, but honestly DeRozan's individual play has sucked.
    truth. pau is the problem no doubt. the whole team has suffered with his return.

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    Not only do the morons on this site lack basketbll knowledge they actually lack common sense as well No matter how much money you make or what tough neighborhood you come from that can't offset a clinical chemical imbalance. DeRozan is playing like garbage right now but people should leave at that.
    But, there's HELP if he wants it. Only an idiot would feel sorry for someone who would rather be moody and depressed to gain people's sympathy rather than getting the professional help he needs. From a basketball standpoint though, he was never as good as his numbers indicated and his career postseason numbers are atrocious. Maybe uneducated spurs fans just didn't realize what they were getting until they got it.

    Toronto fans were beyond estatic to see DeRozen traded even if it meant just one year of Kawhi and Danny Green.

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