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    Remove Harrell because it would be impossible. Essentially your swapping Alexander, Bridges and Green for Poeltl here, and Spurs are yet to use raptors pick and could also lose Harris (or over pay him greatly).

    By the off season it could be Alexander, bridges for Leonard. Bravo, what a future.
    How's that still not better than what we got?

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    Clippers definitely offered Harris and picks. Spurs just didn't want to oblige Kawhi

    Clippers GM is stalking Kawhi this entire season for christ sakes

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    Firstly, to see how low the comparison is, you are comparing one of the worst DD runs in recent years to Harris best career run. Despite that, DD stats over the course of the season is ever so slightly better, to go along with some clutch shots this season. Over the 3 games they have played each other, they are pretty close.

    DD 22ppg 8.3reb 4.6ast 2.6stl 1blk 2.6to 41% 0% 86%
    TH 20.3ppg 8reb 5.6ast 1.3stl .6blk 1.6to 52% 41% 66%

    Harris is a free agent and DD is locked up for another season. There is no comparison, Spurs did the right choice getting Tor package over LAC.
    Lol

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    I'm even thinking some of those early wild rumored offers from the Lakers would have been far better than the horrible Raptor trade.

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    Don't care TBH Harris and Harrell are not game changers.
    And that's why you're the forum clown

    Harrell is elite on both sides. He's a 20 & 10 guy if allowed to start and he's a great defender. If that's not a game changer you're smoking penis, buddy. As for Tobias, I'd swap him for DePression right now. You can't teach 44% shooting from three.

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    Aldridge/Harrell
    Gay/Bertans
    Harris
    Walker/Belinelli
    White/Forbes

    Thats a second seed in the West, at worst. Amick reported that the Clips were also willing to part with one of their two lottery picks as well. PATFO put their ego ahead of the team once again. Couldn't let Kawhi haunt this franchise in the West and let him be in LA even if it was the best deal.

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    DeRozan deal was BY FAR the best option for what Pop wanted to accomplish(keep the team relevant, acquire a name, don't give Kawhi what he wants)..what the posters here wanted is literally meaningless..

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    DeRozan deal was BY FAR the best option for what Pop wanted to accomplish(keep the team relevant, acquire a name, don't give Kawhi what he wants)..
    Yup. Said this the day the trade happened. Be good enough to get swept in the first round.

    what the posters here wanted is literally meaningless..
    Everything that is posted here is meaningless it's a forum...

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    Cry babies

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    It wasn't an impossible deal, it just required a lot of pre-planning 1) heavily hinting at who to pick at 12/13 and 2) hoping no one threw a crazy offer at Harrell.

    I still think Spurs pick LWIV and probably go for Miles Bridges. We'd still need a big and Mitc Robinson was on the radar.

    Unfortunately, PATFO were too delusional (thinking they would keep Kawhi even in early-mid July) so they never showed the signs Jerry West needed to see.

    Murray/White/Mills
    Green/LWIV
    Gay/Bridges
    Harris/Harrell
    LMA/Gasol/Robinson

    And yes some of the criticism was from the logistics of the trade (needed certain chips to fall into place) but a majority of it was just people telling me it was an awful return. On the Spurs subreddit it was almost entirely telling me it would be an awful return.

    I would've just been happy to have Harris over DDR for age, defensive and spacing reasons.

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    Seeing spurs fans turn on DD for being himself is like trump supporters mad cuz they ain’t being paid

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    Was Harris and the 2 picks actually on the table though? That was a lot of conjecture on this forum, but not clear that was offered right?

    Anyway, I think SA balked because they wanted cost control over the “established star” and Harris can still walk

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    I don't fault FO. People woulda been screaming had KL been traded to LA. DDR is in a funk, but he is a moody surly guy for sure.

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    But harell was not in any package. We should talk about Harris and picks.

    And i also think that harell is a very interesting player since his collège days.

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    It wasn't an impossible deal, it just required a lot...
    ... a lot of illegal tampering. You could literally just stop adding Harrell into the deal, and it would be legal, but you won't and probably didn't back when folks were giving your flack. Your scenario where the Clippers draft for the Spurs without knowing that a trade is there isn't realistic, and any bit of security PATFO could offer would have been against the rules.

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    Was Harris and the 2 picks actually on the table though? That was a lot of conjecture on this forum, but not clear that was offered right?

    Anyway, I think SA balked because they wanted cost control over the “established star” and Harris can still walk
    It was on the table in the sense that I think most felt like LAC would go that high if forced, but we never saw an offer than had both picks or Harris added in. I think it was something like one of the picks and Gallo. Remember, West is the same guy who apparently wanted a first to switch Avery Bradley for Danny Green. Not someone who's looking to just make a fair deal with PATFO.

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    I was saying this all off season, as others will attest to. poop let his ego and hurt feelings get in the way of this one

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    Aldridge/Harrell
    Gay/Bertans
    Harris
    Walker/Belinelli
    White/Forbes

    Thats a second seed in the West, at worst. Amick reported that the Clips were also willing to part with one of their two lottery picks as well. PATFO put their ego ahead of the team once again. Couldn't let Kawhi haunt this franchise in the West and let him be in LA even if it was the best deal.
    not to mention no long term cap tie ups in DeCancer smh

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    I also said the Clipper trade was the way to go and draft Mikal Bridges and Porter at 12 and 13. You take a shot at Porter because of his star potential.

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    I don't fault FO. People woulda been screaming had KL been traded to LA. DDR is in a funk, but he is a moody surly guy for sure.
    It would have been better sending him to the Clippers than having him end up with the Lakers next year.
    Last edited by rascal; 01-21-2019 at 07:28 PM.

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    How's that still not better than what we got?
    Because next year DD and Poeltl alone is better than Bridges and Alexander. Not to mention the Tor pick has yet to be used.

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    Because next year DD and Poeltl alone is better than Bridges and Alexander. Not to mention the Tor pick has yet to be used.
    Yeah, no. I would rather have the two promising rooks and the cap space. With them at least you have the hope of uncertainty. You already know what you're gonna get with DeRozan, and I have to say, it's not something that is very exciting to me.

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    It’s just a rough stretch for DeMar, people need to chill. It’s not like any team other then the warriors are gonna win it this year. Just gotta hope the spurs remain a playoff team and eventually find another potential star in the draft

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    I agree. DeRozan has no balls and is soft.. Poetl? LMAO......

    Pop should've been fired.

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    It’s just a rough stretch for DeMar, people need to chill. It’s not like any team other then the warriors are gonna win it this year. Just gotta hope the spurs remain a playoff team and eventually find another potential star in the draft
    If you want them to find a star then it is better they fall into the lottery and get lucky to get a top 5 pick.

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