Dummy Joe: "My whole career has been to take on the polluters"

[SnakeBoy]

Biden and the dems are in a no win situation because the keyboard warriors will still cry foul when he doesn’t drop out, continues to lead and or wins the nomination.

#DNCRIGGED is already bought and paid for in case Biden wins. Just watch.

Idk, I leave open the possibility that they pull the plug on Joe and try re-inventing Kamala.

[Reck]

Idk, I leave open the possibility that they pull the plug on Joe and try re-inventing Kamala.

Kamala is on the verge of dropping out herself.

I really dont see the appeal or why you guys think Kamala is some mega threat.

[DMC]

I like Joe as long as he keeps those other big eyed idiots out of it.

[SnakeBoy]

Kamala is on the verge of dropping out herself.

I really dont see the appeal or why you guys think Kamala is some mega threat.

I'm not saying she's a mega threat. She was the pick of the Clinton machine/donors almost immediately following 16' results. She hasn't done well, along comes Joe but he's senile. Maybe they rope someone new into the race but they have a history of thinking they can just reinvent someone (case in point your girl Hillary). It worked on you last time after all.

[Reck]

(case in point your girl Hillary). It worked on you last time after all.

I should've voted for Bernie then amirite?

If it would come down to Bernie or Hillary I'd dip it for Hilalry again. Too easy of a choice. I mean, you want to talk about senile and cray cray, there you have it with Bern.

[SnakeBoy]

I should've voted for Bernie then amirite?

Well you never had that choice. "They" made sure of it.

I kind of have a conspiracy theory feeling that Pocahontas is a plant by "They" to make sure you won't have that choice again.

[Reck]

Well you never had that choice. "They" made sure of it.

I kind of have a conspiracy theory feeling that Pocahontas is a plant by "They" to make sure you won't have that choice again.

So you're one of those that believed the DNC rigged every single primary and made Bernie lose to an undesirable. Umm I wonder why they couldn't do the same for the General election if they had that magic power then. Cool story

[boutons_deux]

Buttigieg, Harris, Sanders and Warren all beat Trump head to head in the last Q poll.

Only Harris has chance of winning DNC/super-delegates/Dem establishment support. I think she could hold her own against Trash in debates, but probably lose to him because so much of American culture is racist and misogynist, and she's black and female.

[koriwhat]

So you're one of those that believed the DNC rigged every single primary and made Bernie lose to an undesirable. Umm I wonder why they couldn't do the same for the General election if they had that magic power then. Cool story

there's no conspiracy dip . the dnc burned ol' 2face bernout to prop satan herself up as madam presidente.

[clambake]

So you're one of those that believed the DNC rigged every single primary and made Bernie lose to an undesirable. Umm I wonder why they couldn't do the same for the General election if they had that magic power then. Cool story

i'm one of the ones that believe it.

[boutons_deux]

i'm one of the ones that believe it.

Schumer, head of Dem Senate, put out a blackball warning to anybody who works for a challenger to a Dem Senate in bent,

similar to the blackball warning from DNC to anybody who works for a challenger to Dem House in bent.

Dems play harder hardball with Dem party supporters than they play with Repugs, where they don't play hardball at all.

[ElNono]

Biden and the dems are in a no win situation because the keyboard warriors will still cry foul when he doesn’t drop out, continues to lead and or wins the nomination.

#DNCRIGGED is already bought and paid for in case Biden wins. Just watch.

They're in this situation entirely out of their own volition. They had 4+ years to come up with a likeable candidate that doesn't look like he just stopped working in The Walking Dead.

And let's not gloss over the fact that they last successful candidate they had was charismatic, relatively young and fairly unknown. That was a winning formula.

But they turned around and tried to ram an unlikable old hag with 3 million miles in the political arena. Now they're just doubling down on stupid.

[Will Hunting]

So you're one of those that believed the DNC rigged every single primary and made Bernie lose to an undesirable. Umm I wonder why they couldn't do the same for the General election if they had that magic power then. Cool story

Are you really incapable of making the distinction between how the DNC would be able to rig ITS OWN primary vs. how it wouldn’t be able to rig an election against a different political party? You can’t be that stupid.

“Rig” is a strong word I wouldn’t use, but the mere fact superdelegates systematically acted against the interest of voters in their respective states is a black and white example of the deck being stacked against Bernie in 2016. Trying to paint the assertion that the DNC took proactive measures to help Hillary win as an outlandish conspiracy theory on the same level as Trumps “illegal voters in California” theory is ludicrous. Debbie N!ggerman-Schultz wouldn’t have lost her job if everything was handled properly.

[Will Hunting]

I should've voted for Bernie then amirite?

Certainly couldn’t have done any worse against Trump than Shillary did.

[hater]

wreck getting a train ran on him

[Reck]

They're in this situation entirely out of their own volition. They had 4+ years to come up with a likeable candidate that doesn't look like he just stopped working in The Walking Dead.

And let's not gloss over the fact that they last successful candidate they had was charismatic, relatively young and fairly unknown. That was a winning formula.

But they turned around and tried to ram an unlikable old hag with 3 million miles in the political arena. Now they're just doubling down on stupid.

I suspect the people who who have an axe to grind against the party would come up with a fresh excuse. As you are doing.

This time, there were/are like 20 candidates to pick from and we still have to hear how they're "picking" their guy despite no primaries having even taken place.

[Reck]

Are you really incapable of making the distinction between how the DNC would be able to rig ITS OWN primary vs. how it wouldn’t be able to rig an election against a different political party? You can’t be that stupid.

“Rig” is a strong word I wouldn’t use, but the mere fact superdelegates systematically acted against the interest of voters in their respective states is a black and white example of the deck being stacked against Bernie in 2016. Trying to paint the assertion that the DNC took proactive measures to help Hillary win as an outlandish conspiracy theory on the same level as Trumps “illegal voters in California” theory is ludicrous. Debbie N!ggerman-Schultz wouldn’t have lost her job if everything was handled properly.

You won't get any disagreements from me about superdelegates being a stupid idea to begin with. It never made sense to me.

Now that said, Bernie knew the game going in and he agreed to play by the rules. It only became an issue when he started losing and it became apparent he wouldn't catch up. Delegates aside, he simply got rejected by the primary voters by a fair margin of actual votes cast.

The DNC liked a candidate more than the other and definitely played favorites. That is not to say they manipulated the voting process which the people took part in.

Back in 2007 when Hillary was again the chosen one, the same thing went down, DNC was all in for her. The only difference being she got her ass beat by a more likeable, more charismatic and authentic guy.

Same rule and all. Obama won more states, that simple.

[Thread]

You won't get any disagreements from me about superdelegates being a stupid idea to begin with. It never made sense to me.

Now that said, Bernie knew the game going in and he agreed to play by the rules. It only became an issue when he started losing and it became apparent he wouldn't catch up. Delegates aside, he simply got rejected by the primary voters by a fair margin of actual votes cast.

The DNC liked a candidate more than the other and definitely played favorites. That is not to say they manipulated the voting process which the people took part in.

Back in 2007 when Hillary was again the chosen one, the same thing went down, DNC was all in for her. The only difference being she got her ass beat by a more likeable, more charismatic and authentic guy.

Same rule and all. Obama won more states, that simple.

She tried to turn black, but, it didn't take.

[Will Hunting]

You won't get any disagreements from me about superdelegates being a stupid idea to begin with. It never made sense to me.

Now that said, Bernie knew the game going in and he agreed to play by the rules. It only became an issue when he started losing and it became apparent he wouldn't catch up. Delegates aside, he simply got rejected by the primary voters by a fair margin of actual votes cast.

The DNC liked a candidate more than the other and definitely played favorites. That is not to say they manipulated the voting process which the people took part in.

Back in 2007 when Hillary was again the chosen one, the same thing went down, DNC was all in for her. The only difference being she got her ass beat by a more likeable, more charismatic and authentic guy.

Same rule and all. Obama won more states, that simple.

No one is saying Bernie is the aggrieved party, your argument about him “knowing the game” is a straw man. The aggrieved party is the voter in Wisconsin who voted for Bernie as part of a majority in the primary yet Hillary somehow got more delegates from the state than he did.

[TSA]

Are you really incapable of making the distinction between how the DNC would be able to rig ITS OWN primary vs. how it wouldn’t be able to rig an election against a different political party? You can’t be that stupid.

He goes by forum dunce for a reason.

[SnakeBoy]

also said he got the assault weapons ban approved but because of hanging chads the last President wouldn't renew it

Starting to feel sorry for the guy tbh

[ElNono]

I suspect the people who who have an axe to grind against the party would come up with a fresh excuse. As you are doing.

This time, there were/are like 20 candidates to pick from and we still have to hear how they're "picking" their guy despite no primaries having even taken place.

Are we really going to pretend that the party apparatus in it's many forms (DNC backing, fundraisers, corporate sponsors, etc) are not the one that make or break candidates? Talk about excuses.

I don't necessarily have a problem with all 20 or so candidates, I have a problem with the fact that, mostly due to monumental amount of money that costs to run a campaign, and the related interests that make that happen, a good amount of those candidates were never really an option.

And guys like average Joe, with all the bull and baggage, and clearly going to raise to the top. I'm still hoping for det one embarrassing moment/comment that sinks his candidacy, because, and let's be honest here too, I don't know one progressive that will not hold their nose to vote for Joe.

[ElNono]

also said he got the assault weapons ban approved but because of hanging chads the last President wouldn't renew it

Starting to feel sorry for the guy tbh

There's two things at play here, Biden is borderline senile and and idiot to boot, and Saavedra cannot be taken seriously.

[boutons_deux]

Joe Lie-den

Joe Biden can’t stop lying.

He lies for popularity,

he lies to protect billionaires’ profits, and

he lies to cover his own misdeeds.

If he were to quit lying,

Biden would be exposed for who he actually is:

a happy stooge of industry trying to squash the rising demand for a better world.

Joe Biden’s presidential campaign is a train wreck of gaffes and mental lapses.

His tendency to up during every public appearance has garnered significant attention from the media,

sometimes played for laughs and

sometimes reported with genuine concern.

He seems to be legitimately unwell,

and

his declining polling numbers show that people are noticing.

But the sheer frequency of his mental errors has masked

a far more sinister and intentional habit,

one that’s been core to his entire political career:

Joe Biden can’t stop lying.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/09/joe-biden-lies-gaffes-climate-townhall-democratic-race-2020?utm_source=Jacobin&utm_campaign=61e867b2f9-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_09_11_04_37&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_be8b1b2846-61e867b2f9-85395805&mc_cid=61e867b2f9&mc_eid=33263fe77b