Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources

[picnroll]

2009 flu pandemic (50K confirmed USA cases)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic


but the Banksters Great Depression world-wide was the pre-occupying crisis

Quite likely/possibly orders of magnitude less.

[baseline bum]

I call BS without looking at updates today.

Show the board how you got these numbers.

I forgot the source but I think it was a hospital association leaking out that they were preparing for 450k deaths. Micheal Osterholm also mentioned that number I think in this interview from yesterday.



450k seems pretty conservative given the state of our healthcare system, the health of our nation, and how difficult it will be to quarantine in a country without a safety net when we're talking about a virus more easy to spread than the flu and which is only 3 months old in humans so we have minimal resistance.

[SnakeBoy]

Even 0.7% mortality rate puts it at ~690k deaths with only a 30% infection rate, so 450k seems very conservative. But we're not going to have a 0.7% mortality rate like South Korea when the test costs $2400 and no one making $11 at an hour at Walmart with a $3000 deductible is taking that test so they can learn they have to stay home and have no money for food, rent, and utilities. We're not going to have a 0.7% mortality rate with how obese our population is. Ultimately, I'll be a little surprised if the death toll is less than 2 million (say a 60% transmission rate with a 1% mortality rate).

I'm just using the conservative number Michael Osterholm used on the Joe Rogan interview.

I'm still hopeful remdesivir proves useful for treating serious cases and reduces the fatality rate. Should find out soon, the clinical trial started Feb 25th

Initially, investigators will compare participant outcomes on day 15 in both the remdesivir group and the placebo group to see if the investigational drug increased clinical benefit compared to placebo. Outcomes are scored on a seven-point scale ranging from fully recovered to death. Investigators will reevaluate this scale after reviewing data from the first 100 participants.

An independent data and safety monitoring board (DSMB) will monitor ongoing results to ensure patient well-being and safety as well as study integrity. The DSMB will recommend the study be halted if there is clear and substantial evidence of a treatment difference between drug and placebo.

[baseline bum]

I'm just using the conservative number Michael Osterholm used on the Joe Rogan interview.

I'm still hopeful remdesivir proves useful for treating serious cases and reduces the fatality rate. Should find out soon, the clinical trial started Feb 25th

Is this something that's going to be able to be manufactured quickly in the tens of millions of doses if it does turn out to work? Especially considering Chinese manufacturing has been brought to its knees.

[SnakeBoy]

Is this something that's going to be able to be manufactured quickly in the tens of millions of doses if it does turn out to work? Especially considering Chinese manufacturing has been brought to its knees.

It's manufactured here by Gilead (ticker GILD). They started ramping production sometime ago. Shipped some to China for trials and the NIH is doing this trial.

It was given to the very first US case under compassionate use. He improved in 24hrs. Here is the case study if you are interested
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001191

Fingers crossed

[SnakeBoy]

Is this something that's going to be able to be manufactured quickly in the tens of millions of doses if it does turn out to work? Especially considering Chinese manufacturing has been brought to its knees.

Forgot to mention. One of the first things China did went they were shipped the drug was file for a patent on it's use
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-c...-idUSKBN1ZZ0RL

[Darth_Pelican]

450k US deaths estimated conservatively. They're not going to say that publicly.

Yeah, it won't even be close to that. Dirty ass China, where people literally live on top of each other, with a population of 1.38 billion, only had 80,790 total cases. That's less than 6% of the population. Of those 80,790 cases, only 3,158 have died. 61,611 have recovered. The spread in China has slowed down significantly.

Here's the stats page:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[baseline bum]

Yeah, it won't even be close to that. Dirty ass China, where people literally live on top of each other, with a population of 1.38 billion, only had 80,790 total cases. That's less than 6% of the population. Of those 80,790 cases, only 3,158 have died. 61,611 have recovered. The spread in China has slowed down significantly.

Here's the stats page:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

What happens when they go back to work though?

[Thread]

Yeah, it won't even be close to that. Dirty ass China, where people literally live on top of each other, with a population of 1.38 billion, only had 80,790 total cases. That's less than 6% of the population. Of those 80,790 cases, only 3,158 have died. 61,611 have recovered. The spread in China has slowed down significantly.

Here's the stats page:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

CNN/MSM won't touch that materiel.

Had to come here to see it.

[SnakeBoy]

Yeah, it won't even be close to that. Dirty ass China, where people literally live on top of each other, with a population of 1.38 billion, only had 80,790 total cases. That's less than 6% of the population. Of those 80,790 cases, only 3,158 have died. 61,611 have recovered. The spread in China has slowed down significantly.

Here's the stats page:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Because they are on lock down. They have to show papers just to go to the grocery store. Can't do that forever.

[vy65]

This kind of really should get Trump booted from office.

It won't and that's why we deserve this

[SnakeBoy]

This kind of really should get Trump booted from office.

We'll see. It's hard to predict since this is an historic global event. I expect to see non-stop ads of Biden saying C'mon Man China's no threat C'mon Man

[boutons_deux]

only had 80,790 total cases

so far, and how many are yet to be tested?

[Will Hunting]

This kind of really should get Trump booted from office.

Ironically it might if it wipes out a bunch of old people.

[Thread]

Ironically it might if it wipes out a bunch of old people.

- "If you live long enough some bad is gonna happen to you."

- Danny Glover - "Grand Canyon"

[DMC]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/11/polit...ent/index.html

CNN anchor getting her narrative shoved up her ass

[TDMVPDPOY]

1m deaths, how many of them are the old and fragile?

deadbeats of society that society would shed a tear over?

clowns on lifetime welfare who dont contribute?

[TDMVPDPOY]

watching trumps speech, "we are the best" at this and that....

300m+ population, i doubt the health system can cope with the mass influx of monkeys who want tests/treatment...

[Th'Pusher]

This kind of really should get Trump booted from office.

Weak minds like authoritarian governments

[Spurminator]

ing incredible that even 30% of the country could watch Donald Trump's address to the nation tonight and still wake up tomorrow complaining that the media is too mean to him.

[Trill Clinton]

Even 0.7% mortality rate puts it at ~690k deaths with only a 30% infection rate, so 450k seems very conservative. But we're not going to have a 0.7% mortality rate like South Korea when the test costs $2400 and no one making $11 at an hour at Walmart with a $3000 deductible is taking that test so they can learn they have to stay home and have no money for food, rent, and utilities. We're not going to have a 0.7% mortality rate with how obese our population is. Ultimately, I'll be a little surprised if the death toll is less than 2 million (say a 60% transmission rate with a 1% mortality rate).

Jesus Christ

[DMC]

ing incredible that even 30% of the country could watch Donald Trump's address to the nation tonight and still wake up tomorrow complaining that the media is too mean to him.

Virtue signaling again?

[pgardn]

I forgot the source but I think it was a hospital association leaking out that they were preparing for 450k deaths. Micheal Osterholm also mentioned that number I think in this interview from yesterday. 450k seems pretty conservative given the state of our healthcare system, the health of our nation, and how difficult it will be to quarantine in a country without a safety net when we're talking about a virus more easy to spread than the flu and which is only 3 months old in humans so we have minimal resistance.

[boutons_deux]

Trash thinks he can con, lie, distort, hide, as he always entire life, the USA into his unreal Trumpworld fantasy, and he's getting his Exec to play along.

[pgardn]

I forgot the source but I think it was a hospital association leaking out that they were preparing for 450k deaths. Micheal Osterholm also mentioned that number I think in this interview from yesterday.



450k seems pretty conservative given the state of our healthcare system, the health of our nation, and how difficult it will be to quarantine in a country without a safety net when we're talking about a virus more easy to spread than the flu and which is only 3 months old in humans so we have minimal resistance.

The older people who are most vulnerable are already highly sequestered compared to younger folks.
These are the people most likely to die. If nursing homes take precautions I just can’t see that number.
Its also not too late to stretch the incidence of very sick people out so they don’t overwhelm hospitals.

Im gonna go hater and call this number at least 2x too high even though our population is obviously a lot larger compared to when some of the worst pandemics hit; ie there are just a whole bunch more people available for dying. Especially old people.