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How is that a no vote? I dont care one way or the other. It's a statue and I dont let it speak for me. I dont do worships.Okay, that's one no vote and the rest present.
Okay, that's one no vote and the rest present.
How is that a no vote? I dont care one way or the other. It's a statue and I dont let it speak for me. I dont do worships.Okay, that's one no vote and the rest present.
what's the story behind that?
Oh, so present. Sorry. All Chumpettes voting present.
I was unequivocal, but I guess I'm not a Chumpette, so
By all means, you count. Your yes vote is registered. Let the record be amended thusly.I was unequivocal, but I guess I'm not a Chumpette, so
Would you support a statue of Santa Anna at the Alamo?
What American value(s) do you think he stands for?
why would we get rid of that statue?
FDR couldn't get away with slaughtering innocent Japs on US soil so he just imprisoned all of them. Elsewhere in the world he just slaughtered them and called it a triumph of American values.
derp votes present in his own thread.
lol derp
Have you landed on an answer?
Oh yeah, I thought you were talking Owens... yep, the Japan internment camps is a historical black eye on this country...
He was also an anti-Semite if were being honest with ourselves. His daughter had no issue making overtly anti-Semitic comments and usually you get that from your parents. There were also train tracks Germany was using to transport Jews 5 miles off course from where a US bombing raid was happening and he made the affirmative decision to avoid them. IIRC bombing those tracks probably would have saved a couple hundred thousand Jews.
I’d be OK with taking his statue down if Japanese Americans were offended by it.
Worst presidents in US history:
1) FDR - let the longest recession ever bleed and bleed and bleed and hemorrhage some more. "New Deal" policies only triggered stagflation and punished smart financial operators at the time. WW2 bailed out his old, tosb ass.
2) Lyndon Johnson - warhawk and spearheaded the left-wing neocon movement. Cost millions of U.S. young lives in a needless war. Imposed two-faced civil rights laws which our communities are still suffering from today. Redlined neighborhoods which perpetuated race riots. Cost the U.S. the upper hand in the Cold War and the Space Race which only Nixon (one of the better presidents despite being a bit of a cheater) restored for the U.S.
3) Carter - took a strong economy and completely fractured its foundation, causing stagflation and a bunch of government bailouts which hard-working, responsible Americans weren't able to qualify for. The worst kind of Keynesian economist. Completely screwed the pooch by doing nothing with Iran when he had the opportunity to lay down the hammer. Lost jobs by the millions and gas prices rose to $3.50+, if you could even find gas at all.
4) Obama - from the stimulus to the "Affordable Care Act", his laws and policies were straight garbage. Economy recovered extremely slowly until the back half of his second term. His policies were ludicrous and he and Hillary teamed up to make one of the worst war hawkish duos in modern history, completely tearing apart the stability in Libya and others, and initially supporting the jihadist Arab Spring. Completely screwed the pooch on ISIS and Iraqi/Syrian stability. Legalized gay marriage, which was probably good, but not marijuana, which arguably should have come first. Did not invade Syria and try to eliminate Assad, which was probably a good thing, but he sure thought about it. Largely had an easy job considering the dearth of hurricanes, pandemics and other disasters that didn't happen under his two-term regime.
5) Reagan/Bush Sr. - Although the 80s were largely an era of good feelings, these policies of enabling and empowering global jihad as a proxy defense against Russia and the newly-hostile Iran (Carter's fault) ultimately led to a ten-year string of major jihadist attacks that ultimately culminated in 9/11 and the wars in the Gulf and Afghanistan. You can argue that Bush Sr. was somewhat worse because he lied about not raising taxes and not being a war hawk. Policed Iraq against Kuwait when the right move was to stand pat, since Saddam Hussein was not a threat to the U.S. -- but the mujahideen were.
^musings of a conservative edgelord
Yeah, Andy is only good for the lols
Agreed
I almost, almost, almost threw Wilson in there at #5 at the last minute, but I chose Reagan/Bush because I thought it was more relevant to today.
I don’t have good reason to take it down, so no.
You?
So, imprisoning thousands of innocent Americans based on race isn't a good reason?
He should be #1. He's the one who signed the Fed into law.
How about a statue of Burger King at McDonalds?
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