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    i'm optimistic.

    the trump administration is gonna be a huge drag on the party. georgia dems will still be motivated. and abrams is there.

    i'll take it.
    Not really. Dems in congress underperformed the two times Trump was on the ticket in 2016 and 2020. The hope is that without Trump carrying the Republicans, the Dems will perform closer to 2018 levels.

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    Not really. Dems in congress underperformed the two times Trump was on the ticket in 2016 and 2020. The hope is that without Trump carrying the Republicans, the Dems will perform closer to 2018 levels.
    point being that trump won't be on the ticket in january.

    his covid handling / handling of the governement until january isn't going to be anything to gush about. so he'll be a net negative, imo, rather then a net positive.

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    My hopes for these races are fading. I’m never going to forgive AOC and Sanders for letting the woke police takeover progressive politics.
    Not sure if this ^ is the answer...

    Instead of hoping for EVERY VOTE -

    You immediately jump on the current Republican narrative that Dems are destroying each other and AOC/Bernie are toxic?

    Maybe tons of those new voters that helped Biden win by voting for the first time - were recruited by Bernie/AOC (aside from Stacey Abrams)?

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    Democrats also got killed in the senate this year because of bad oppo research. They kept re-running generic ads about healthcare while the Republican ads were more targeted (ie they eviscerated Greenfield for every tenant her real estate firm has ever evicted). There’s a load of negative stuff out there about Perdue and Loeffler, it really shouldn’t be hard to run negative ads that attack their character. Theyre both horrible people, especially Loeffler.
    Loeffler went full maga to get to the run off she'll survive if Trump decided to campaign for her

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    Not sure if this ^ is the answer...

    Instead of hoping for EVERY VOTE -

    You immediately jump on the current Republican narrative that Dems are destroying each other and AOC/Bernie are toxic?

    Maybe tons of those new voters that helped Biden win by voting for the first time - were recruited by Bernie/AOC (aside from Stacey Abrams)?
    Any votes Bernie/AOC got were gotten because of their stance on healthcare and economic equality. No one was won over by Bernie/AOC because they support defund the police (but not literally just figuratively!) or because they’re focused on tranny rights.

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    Any votes Bernie/AOC got were gotten because of their stance on healthcare and economic equality. No one was won over by Bernie/AOC because they support defund the police (but not literally just figuratively!) or because they’re focused on tranny rights.
    Maybe.

    But - EVERY ING VOTE IS NEEDED.

    So why do exactly what Repukes want and blame one Dem side or the other?

    The young people that - for the first time decided to get involved - love them some AOC - my daughter is newly into politics -partly because of AOC's ing twitter acct -

    Im pretty sure young people can decide to vote Republican - if progressive just tuck their tails and cater to the middle.

    Get them ALL on board -

    The younger the better.

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    Maybe.

    But - EVERY ING VOTE IS NEEDED.

    So why do exactly what Repukes want and blame one side or the other -

    The young people that - for the first time decided to get involved - love them some AOC - my daughter is newly into politics -partly because of AOC's ing twitter acct -

    Im pretty sure young people can decide to vote Republican - if progressive just tuck their tails and cater to the middle.

    Get them ALL on board -

    The younger the better.
    The fact every vote is needed is why you don’t let AOC campaign with naive and undisciplined fluff about defunding the police.

    Young people really need to grow up on the woke . It’s embarrassing that young people care about politics at such a superficial level.

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    The fact every vote is needed is why you don’t let AOC campaign with naive and undisciplined fluff about defunding the police.

    Young people really need to grow up on the woke . It’s embarrassing that young people care about politics at such a superficial level.
    Need to build a throne in Atlanta for Queen Stacey.

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    The fact every vote is needed is why you don’t let AOC campaign with naive and undisciplined fluff about defunding the police.

    Young people really need to grow up on the woke . It’s embarrassing that young people care about politics at such a superficial level.
    Young people understand that "defunding the police"

    does NOT mean what Republicans say that it means.

    They are up to speed more than you think.

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    Young people understand that "defunding the police"

    does NOT mean what Republicans say that it means.

    They are up to speed more than you think.
    I’m not talking about what young people think it means, I’m talking about what moderate suburban voters think it means.

    If “Defund the police” doesn’t actually mean defund the police, then the ing slogan shouldn’t be defund the police.

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    I’m not talking about what young people think it means, I’m talking about what moderate suburban voters think it means.

    If “Defund the police” doesn’t actually mean defund the police, then the ing slogan shouldn’t be defund the police.

    Democrats didn't make up the slogan -

    Republicans heard protesters chanting it and lied that this was Dems platform.

    Republicans started this narrative that Dems are at war with each other and that both Moderates and Progressives cannot co-exist.

    Let Republicans do whatever the they want in their party - let Dems figure out whats best in theirs.

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    Democrats didn't make up the slogan -

    Republicans heard protesters chanting it and lied that this was Dems platform.

    Republicans started this narrative that Dems are at war with each other and that both Moderates and Progressives cannot co-exist.

    Let Republicans do whatever the they want in their party - let Dems figure out whats best in theirs.
    Right, Republicans said it was the Dem platform, and rather than say “No it’s not” the Dems said “Well I doesn’t really mean defund the police literally”.

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    Right, Republicans said it was the Dem platform, and rather than say “No it’s not” the Dems said “Well I doesn’t really mean defund the police literally”.
    Well - we going in circles -

    but they did say "no its not"

    but Republicans/pundits/media - ran with it anyway -

    I still say - better to educate the voters and ask for every vote -
    instead of splitting into factions-

    but I hear you.

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    One thing that has really hit home for me is that money means less than people think. It’s the message that counts, and people can see the same thing over and over and just not be convinced by it if it’s not the winning message.

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    One thing that has really hit home for me is that money means less than people think. It’s the message that counts, and people can see the same thing over and over and just not be convinced by it if it’s not the winning message.
    Absolutely. In a presidential race money matters more because you can always just start spending money in another state that your opponent thought was safe, but in statewide/more local races there's a limit to how much money you actually need. I actually think having boatloads of money hurt Dem candidates this year, they thought having money made it so they didn't need to go door to door or engage in things like townhalls that absolutely matter.

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    Loeffler went full maga to get to the run off she'll survive if Trump decided to campaign for her
    I'm not sure Trump will be willing to campaign for anybody if he's not getting anything out of it(like another term in office). Campaigning in Georgia helps Mitch but it doesn't help him keep his presidency.

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    I'm not sure Trump will be willing to campaign for anybody if he's not getting anything out of it(like another term in office). Campaigning in Georgia helps Mitch but it doesn't help him keep his presidency.
    it gives him a chance for the jackoff rallies that he loves

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    Good luck getting the young Trump haters to turn out for the runoff.

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