Add a couple million to the cap space

[ChumpDumper]

Wait a sec. I thought that until Tim picks up his option, he'll count against the cap for 105% of this past season's salary. That -- $12,676,125 -- is Tim's max level, not the 25% or 30% since the cap won't go high enough to use the percentages. It wouldn't make any sense for Tim (or KG or Shaq when their time comes) to count less against the cap than what they were actually previously paid.

It does open a bit more cap room, but only about $600k.

[guitarsoup]

42.5 Cap

S&T Brand for Rose and two first rounc picks. (Brand at the max will count for 5+change, since Malik's 5 will be on LAC's cap.)

We will have just under the max salary available to offer Kidd.

Brand/Willis/Bateer
Duncan/vet fa
Bowen/Ginobili
Parker/Ginobilil
Kidd/Parker

[DuffMcCartney]

I dont see Sterling picking up Malik's contract anyway, so I say just try to sign him outright, if not just save the extra cap space for next year.

[T Park Num 9]

you forgot Stephen Jackson in there too.


But dang, Brand and Jason Kidd???


Might as well hand the trophys over for the next 5 years.

[ducks]

also the spurs have a better shot at resigning speedy if they do not get kidd but oneal. but then it will be does speedy want to start. he knows he will NOT start here with tp here and he said he wants to play for sa.

[T Park Num 9]

Who knows,

maybe Speedy could take Parker's job?


I think before he got hurt earlier in the season, he was getting ready to take it over honestly.

[guitarsoup]

If we did that, I dont think we would have the money to resign SJax or Claxton. They would walk.

We would have to fill roster spots with vet FAs and min crap players.

We would be undenyably shallow - Ginobili, Bateer, Willis and maybe Kerr on the bench. If Ferry wants a victory lap for the vet min, let him.

With a starting five like that, I am not sure it matters too much how shallow we would be.

Bowen plays 30-35.
Kidd and Parker play 38-40 each.
Ginobili would play 30-35.
Brand and Duncan would play a good 35-40 each as well, with Willis getting 15.

We would have some tired players. If we got some minimum guys to step up like Willis did, we could win 70. Of course, this may be the biggest pipe-dream ever.

[ducks]

if td is that greedy then he does not have that character that I thought he had. leavinng fractions on the table to win is not being unreasonable. td wants spurs to HAVE THE BEST SHOT AT WINNING EVERY year. gulp he should sacrifice a little.

[ducks]

so you would be happy with speedy as your starter next year? if kidd does not come?

[T Park Num 9]

If he out plays tony parker for the spot and EARNS it???

Yes, Speedy proved in the playoffs and in that final game and actually all season long.

He can make shots, run the team very well, and plays GREAT D.


Either TOny Parker or Speedy Claxton, I would be happy with as my starting point guard.

[ducks]

speedy proved in the playoffs he can play. he also has gotten the benifiet of not being a starter so oppossing coaches do not forcus on how to stop him. they do with parker and the rest of the starters. had scott been a great coach he would have tried kittles on speedy to not just tp. nothing against speedy. also speedy seems to get tired faster but maybe that is because he is not used to playing 36 min. a night

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Come on TPark,

All Speedy and Tony proved those last couple of games vs. NJ was that:

1. Speedy can hit the open jumper when left alone (which he was), something we already knew.

2. Tony has more difficulties getting his shot off against bigger guards (which we already knew after watching him play against Joe Johnson and Michael Finley).

The fact is whoever Kidd was guarding, be it Tony or Speedy, lit him up in the Finals.

Asserting that Speedy was getting ready to take Tony's job in the regular season is assenine, TP was the key (when scoring 20+) in almost half our regular season victories.

Let's keep this talk on our FA prospects, our PG heirarchy has been clearly established so let's not dilute this thread with such reaches.

AHF

[Jimcs50]

[genghisrex]

Well, sorry to rain on everyone's parade (which I unfortunately started), but Chump may be right. I based my statement on Larry Coon's CBA FAQ, which says:

Larry Bird, except when coming off rookie "scale" contract At least the average salary 150%*

*Not to exceed the player's maximum salary, based on years of service

Now, "maximum salary, based on years of service" to me means that it's based on the 25, 30, 35% scale. However, after consulting the actual CBA on the matter I came up with a corresponding statement of "Maximum Player Salary applicable to such player." The maximum applicable to TD is most likely interpreted as 105% of his last year's salary.

At this point you're getting into legal interpretations, and I don't even pretend to be a qualified lawyer or legal professional, who can make sense out of the matter. I do know, however, that the CBA has a blanket anti-loophole provision that says something like anything that would violate the "spirit" of the CBA is not allowed. What I proposed could potentially fall into that trap. I guess we'll just have to wait and see...

[Rick Von Braun]

So... does anyone know what the right interpretation is? Any news regarding Tim's contractual situation.

Any info would be appreciated.

-R

[KoriEllis]

I don't think there are any updates yet on the Duncan front.

[MadeFromDust]

Apparently TD's agent said he will become a free agent, but will resign with the Spurs.

[baseline bum]

ChumpDumper is right. 105% it is.

[ChumpDumper]

:wacko

That would bring the total of cap dispute victories to

genghisrex: 2,345

ChumpDumper: 1

I lost count of baseline bum's a long time ago....

[God Almighty]

, I don't even care about this .