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    Conservative+SAWM+ Q = no chance for those 2 babies.

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    This thread is about someone killing his kids because he thought it must be done for QAnon, thus in the world of QAnon believers, they think killing kids is good.

    Idk what's so hard to comprehend about that.

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    In Old Testament, Abraham was ok with killing his son when he heard god tell him to do it. About the same .

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    Good so it’s about time to log off ST for a while.

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    In Old Testament, Abraham was ok with killing his son when he heard god tell him to do it. About the same .
    They'll drive ya about to it, by God, Ef.

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    Used to be friends with a dude that went off the Qanon rails and damned if I didn't think this thread might've been about him.

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    He was a teacher in Santa Barbara, California, probably afraid that his kids would grow up to be liberals like what's happening to a lot of white conservative families in CA. A lot of generational divide which means kids pretty much breaking off ties with their parents and other ancestors sort of like what Aaron Rodgers did, except over politics.

    Liberals and globalists are evil, but QAnon is becoming a David Koresh / James Jones-town level cult. There's absolutely zero excuse for killing children. This guy should get the death penalty and executed ASAP so he won't waste any taxpayer money in prison.
    smh.

    You do realize that it costs more money to execute someone than it does to have them live out their lives in prison?

    Guessing not.

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    This thread is about someone killing his kids because he thought it must be done for QAnon, thus in the world of QAnon believers, they think killing kids is good.

    Idk what's so hard to comprehend about that.
    Religion poisons everything.

    This is as close to a religion as it gets, and nutters on the edges that have mental issues are vulnerable to it.

    I think we need to face the true costs of conspiracy theories and treat them like the mental cancer it is.

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    Addressing this kind of rampant, dangerous bull is made all the harder by "both sides" stupidity, and the notion that all opinions are created equal.

    They aren't.

    Very very often on many issues one side or the other has vastly more evidence, and decent arguments for it.

    Pretending that is not the case and "both sides" lends ed conspiracy theories like flat earth, human caused climate change denial, and "faked" moon landings seem more credible than the giant steaming idea turds they are.

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    It's so weird to think that most of you harp on those into Qanon yet yall dedicate threads to them and propagate those threads daily. I think the whole Qanon is pathetic and dumb as ; however, I find it funny how much yall supposedly detest that only to propagate it more here on ST. Yall probably talk more about Qanon than the Qturds tbh.

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    smh.

    You do realize that it costs more money to execute someone than it does to have them live out their lives in prison?

    Guessing not.
    Why? It shouldn't be. One bullet is less than a dollar, and enough power to spark an electric chair shouldn't cost more than a few bucks. A shot of lethal injection shouldn't cost more than $20-25 realistically. Tally up the labor hours of the execution administrators, plus a simple cremation and you're still looking at a $100 bill or less.

    Addressing this kind of rampant, dangerous bull is made all the harder by "both sides" stupidity, and the notion that all opinions are created equal.

    They aren't.

    Very very often on many issues one side or the other has vastly more evidence, and decent arguments for it.

    Pretending that is not the case and "both sides" lends ed conspiracy theories like flat earth, human caused climate change denial, and "faked" moon landings seem more credible than the giant steaming idea turds they are.
    Not all three of those are equal, though. Two of them are proven wrong and the other is still a giant question mark.

    It's so weird to think that most of you harp on those into Qanon yet yall dedicate threads to them and propagate those threads daily. I think the whole Qanon is pathetic and dumb as ; however, I find it funny how much yall supposedly detest that only to propagate it more here on ST. Yall probably talk more about Qanon than the Qturds tbh.
    100% Agreed

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    You do realize that it costs more money to execute someone than it does to have them live out their lives in prison?

    Guessing not.
    If you are a libertarian, it absolutely should be.

    Either you want to make it easy for the government to execute people, or you don't.

    If you believe in individual liberty and rights, you want the latter. It should be difficult.

    Libertarians believe in individual liberty and rights, they want it difficult.

    If you want to make it easy, you do not believe in individual liberty and rights.

    Ergo, you are lying when you claim to be libertarian.

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    Not all three of those are equal, though. Two of them are proven wrong and the other is still a giant question mark.
    Translation:

    The ed anti-science bull conspiracy theory I believe in isn't dumb.



    Sorry, get in the corner with the faked moon-landing asshat.

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    If you are a libertarian, it absolutely should be.

    Either you want to make it easy for the government to execute people, or you don't.

    If you believe in individual liberty and rights, you want the latter. It should be difficult.

    Libertarians believe in individual liberty and rights, they want it difficult.

    If you want to make it easy, you do not believe in individual liberty and rights.

    Ergo, you are lying when you claim to be libertarian.
    I am a libertarian but that doesn't mean I believe murder in cold blood, rape/pedophilia, nor even less severe crimes like fraud and theft should be legal. You're looking for anarchism, not libertarianism.

    Pedos and serial killers, child killers etc. need to be executed, yes by the government. If convicted, they don't deserve cons utional rights, nor human rights nor Miranda rights or state rights. that isn't anti-libertarian, it's common sense. Is it more libertarian to say we should be spending more tax dollars to feed them when we can just execute them and eliminate them from the gene pool and end the vicious cycle (especially in terms of child rape)?

    Homicide, amongst US Citizens within the USA, should only be legal for 3 reasons:

    (a) - self-defense
    (b) - defense of an immediate family member or spouse, or
    (c) - if there is significant evidence that the person one killed has significantly harmed or murdered one's immediate family member or spouse.

    else, they should be executed, not incarcerated. A life of incarceration costs six to seven figures of taxpayer dollars.
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    I am a libertarian but that doesn't mean I believe murder in cold blood, rape/pedophilia, nor even less severe crimes like fraud and theft should be legal. You're looking for anarchism, not libertarianism.

    Pedos and serial killers, child killers etc. need to be executed, yes by the government. If convicted, they don't deserve cons utional rights, nor human rights nor Miranda rights or state rights. that isn't anti-libertarian, it's common sense. Is it more libertarian to say we should be spending more tax dollars to feed them when we can just execute them and eliminate them from the gene pool and end the vicious cycle (especially in terms of child rape)?

    Homicide, amongst US Citizens within the USA, should only be legal for 3 reasons:

    (a) - self-defense
    (b) - defense of an immediate family member or spouse, or
    (c) - if there is significant evidence that the person one killed has significantly harmed or murdered one's immediate family member or spouse.

    else, they should be executed, not incarcerated. A life of incarceration costs six to seven figures of taxpayer dollars.
    Innocent people have been executed in the past as we do not have a perfect justice system. So you lose me there. Not sure that's a libertarian position; it sounds more like tea party.

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    Innocent people have been executed in the past as we do not have a perfect justice system. So you lose me there. Not sure that's a libertarian position; it sounds more like tea party.
    A justice system cannot be perfect without brain-reading robots, which is innately communitarian and anti-libertarian, so throw that idea out.

    Which do you think is better? A life long of suffering incarceration without parole over a false conviction (believe me - false convictions are rare, and the West certainly has a lower conviction rate than second-world places like China, Russia or the Middle East) - or a quick merciful death after a false conviction? Almost anyone who thinks it over, including those who could be facing such position, whether they are guilty or not, would choose the swift death option. It's definitely more libertarian than spending $X,xxx,xxx in tax dollars on the incarceration over the decades, both morally and financially. Patrick Henry said it best... give me liberty or give me death. THAT's the libertarian position. Incarceration for life is much more authoritarian, communitarian, socialistic, and also more inhumane and painful for the convicted to have to suffer for so long. It's really killing two birds with one stone, honestly.

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    A justice system cannot be perfect without brain-reading robots, which is innately communitarian and anti-libertarian, so throw that idea out.

    Which do you think is better? A life long of suffering incarceration without parole over a false conviction (believe me - false convictions are rare, and the West certainly has a lower conviction rate than second-world places like China, Russia or the Middle East) - or a quick merciful death after a false conviction? Almost anyone who thinks it over, including those who could be facing such position, whether they are guilty or not, would choose the swift death option. It's definitely more libertarian than spending $X,xxx,xxx in tax dollars on the incarceration over the decades, both morally and financially. Patrick Henry said it best... give me liberty or give me death. THAT's the libertarian position. Incarceration for life is much more authoritarian, communitarian, socialistic, and also more inhumane and painful for the convicted to have to suffer for so long. It's really killing two birds with one stone, honestly.
    You spend so much valuable time posting long and laborious blocks of absolute bull when you could be out there learning to talk to women so you don't have to drive across several states to get laid.

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    A justice system cannot be perfect without brain-reading robots, which is innately communitarian and anti-libertarian, so throw that idea out.

    Which do you think is better? A life long of suffering incarceration without parole over a false conviction (believe me - false convictions are rare, and the West certainly has a lower conviction rate than second-world places like China, Russia or the Middle East) - or a quick merciful death after a false conviction? Almost anyone who thinks it over, including those who could be facing such position, whether they are guilty or not, would choose the swift death option. It's definitely more libertarian than spending $X,xxx,xxx in tax dollars on the incarceration over the decades, both morally and financially. Patrick Henry said it best... give me liberty or give me death. THAT's the libertarian position. Incarceration for life is much more authoritarian, communitarian, socialistic, and also more inhumane and painful for the convicted to have to suffer for so long. It's really killing two birds with one stone, honestly.
    I would choose the life sentence as DNA exoneration has managed to bring light to cases and get them overturned. It is a small number, but those are just the cases we are actually aware of. How many of these people are swept under the rug with their cases not being appealed because they are mentally ill and/or just don't give a damn. Those who can not afford good counsel are handed a public pretender, as they say, to defend them. And if you have ever sat on a jury, then you know good and well how much of a difference good counsel makes.

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    You spend so much valuable time posting long and laborious blocks of absolute bull when you could be out there learning to talk to women so you don't have to drive across several states to get laid.
    dumb post, I've barely posted in the past 3 weeks because I've been out of state WITH WOMEN....

    I choose to be out of state because Texas females just don't do it for me anymore. Especially Hispanics... just not my type.

    I would choose the life sentence as DNA exoneration has managed to bring light to cases and get them overturned. It is a small number, but those are just the cases we are actually aware of. How many of these people are swept under the rug with their cases not being appealed because they are mentally ill and/or just don't give a damn. Those who can not afford good counsel are handed a public pretender, as they say, to defend them. And if you have ever sat on a jury, then you know good and well how much of a difference good counsel makes.
    As a juror I wouldn't give a damn about what a lawyer says, they're like used car salesmen, just mercenaries to make a buck doing their job vouching for their client. Only thing I'd care about is what the independent people in the court room have to say about the facts and the evidence. And for the record I lean towards criminal exoneration vs. conviction, even if it's not a right wing stance, it's a libertarian stance for sure. In civil cases I am against "tort reform" and support large lawsuits vs. big corporations... I do support tax fraud convictions vs. multi billionaires like Bezos who are repeat tax fraudsters. The only "tort reform" that needs to happen is to prohibit non-compete clauses in employment contracts and to prohibit employers from suing employees/ex-employees (but not the other way around). I do believe in pro-employee civil law.

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    As a juror I wouldn't give a damn about what a lawyer says, they're like used car salesmen, just mercenaries to make a buck doing their job vouching for their client. Only thing I'd care about is what the independent people in the court room have to say about the facts and the evidence. And for the record I lean towards criminal exoneration vs. conviction, even if it's not a right wing stance, it's a libertarian stance for sure. In civil cases I am against "tort reform" and support large lawsuits vs. big corporations... I do support tax fraud convictions vs. multi billionaires like Bezos who are repeat tax fraudsters. The only "tort reform" that needs to happen is to prohibit non-compete clauses in employment contracts and to prohibit employers from suing employees/ex-employees (but not the other way around). I do believe in pro-employee civil law.
    As a juror there could be evidence you never see or witness testimony you never hear because a lawyer s up in his line of questioning and/or getting evidence admitted (visa versa there could be evidence and testimony you see that a half decent lawyer would have been able to get excluded).

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    Tangential, but still don’t understand why would anybody admit to being a libertarian, unless you readily want to be catalogued as a braindead idiot. Liber ianism is basically the conservative utopia of a de minis, and preferably no government. The notion of ‘freedom’ by everybody being on their own and doing its thing. Besides the whole selfish aspect to it (known as ‘individualism’ in conservatism), that’s exactly where this nation was while getting fingered by the Brits.
    Not to mention that libertarian ideals are entirely disconnected with the real world, never won a democratic election (and likely never will), never governed (and likely never will), and it almost sounds like an excuse not to be grouped with the evangelical mongoloids.

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