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[Tommy Duncan]

email Kori.

[SpursWoman]

I already did...she's been away from the forum this afternoon.

[Tommy Duncan]

Thanks Kori and SW.

[afe7FATMAN]

Hey Joe

I Liked your joke,

however, did Dan & GWB both have an ulterior motive?

[CrazyOne]

Joe... I laughed... but now I hate myself for it...

Think I need to drown my guilt in a twelve-pack with Mouse.

[Nbadan]

New Zogby Poll - Bush Continues To Hold Slim Lead Over Kerry (46%-43%);

released: Sunday, Sept. 19

Bush approval rating: 47%

Zogby

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This is totally doable guys. In bents don't get re elected with approval ratings under 50%.

[Tommy Duncan]

First off acting like the 50% level is some kind of absolute minimum is dumb. Bush41 and Carter had approval ratings in the 30s, for example. Again, your at ude typifies the DNC/Kerry campaign approach to this election which was to make it one about Bush personally. That was dumb on multiple fronts, namely that a campaign facing a sitting president is always a vote on the performance of that president and that frankly Bush is a more likable individual than Kerry. Kerry exudes nothing except he wants to be president because he's always wanted to be president. Too bad the Demo base was so embuided with its hatred for the sitting president that it thought nominating a Vietnam vet to run against him would destroy him personally.

As for the other often heard presidential campaign loser themes of "our base's turnout will be high/we're registering voters like mad" one of Dean's minions registered me to vote this past weekend.

Anyways, here are what other national polls have for Bush's job approval rating...

CBS News/NYTimes 50% job approval

CNN/USAToday/Gallup 52% approval

Rasmussen 53%

Annenberg 52%

Time 56%

and so on.

[Nbadan]

Bush41 had End-of Presidency approval ratings in the 50's which is way better than I expect W's approval rating to average for the remainder of this election cycle...

End-of Presidency Job Approval Ratings

Bill Clinton (2001) 65%
Ronald Reagan (1989) 64
Dwight Eisenhower (1961) 59
John F. Kennedy (1963) 63
George Bush (1993) 56
Gerald Ford (1977) 53
Lyndon Johnson (1969) 49
Jimmy Carter (1981) 34
Richard Nixon (1974) 24

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Date Organization Approve Disapprove No Opinion Sample Size Notes

President G.W. Bush

8/26-29/04 ABC/WP 50 47 3 1207
8/24-25/04 Fox/OpinDynamics 51 43 6 1000 LV
8/23-25/04 NBC/WSJ 47 48 5 806
8/23-25/04 Gallup/CNN/USA 49 47 4 1004
8/21-24/04 LATimes 52 47 1 1597 RV
8/15-17/04 Battleground 2004 51 46 2 1000 LV
8/15-18/04 CBS 46 45 9 1009
8/10-15/04 Harris 48 51 1 1012
8/9-11/04 Gallup 51 46 3 1017
8/5-10/04 PSRA/Pew/CCFR 46 45 9 1512
8/5-10/04 PSRA/Pew 46 45 9 1512
8/3-4/04 Fox/OpinDynamics 44 48 8 900 RV
8/2-5/04 Democracy Corps 47 50 3 1013
8/2-5/04 TIPP/IBD/CSM 43 49 8 938
7/30-8/1/04 ARG 43 50 7 1100
7/30-8/1/04 CBS 44 49 7 1052
7/30-8/1/04 ABC/WP 46 49 5 1200
7/30-8/1/04 Gallup/CNN/USA 48 49 3 1518
7/30-31/04 Gallup/CNN/USA 47 49 4 1011
7/30-8/2/04 Marist 41 55 4 1075
7/29-30/04 PSRA/Newsweek 45 49 6 1190
7/19-21/04 NBC/WSJ 48 46 6 813 RV
7/17-21/04 LATimes 51 48 1 1788 RL
7/8-11/04 Gallup 47 49 4 1005
7/8-11/04 WashPost 48 50 2 850
7/8-9/04 PSRA/Newsweek 48 46 6 1169
7/6-10/04 TIPP/IBD/CSM 43 48 9 944
7/1-3/04 Amer. Res. Group 44 50 6 1100
6/25-28/04 NBC/WSJ 45 49 6 1025 RV
6/23-27/04 CBS/NYT 42 51 7 1053
6/22-23/04 Fox/OpinDynamics 49 44 7 900 RV


Note: RV = Registered Voters; LV = Likely Voters

The Roper Center

[Tommy Duncan]

Not during the election did he. In 1993 it was everyone feel good about the old man now that he's gone.

[Tommy Duncan]

www.rotten.com/library/bi...e-hw-bush/

Okey dokey. Perhaps unsurprisingly, Bush had relentlessly pissed away his unprecedented approval ratings over the previous 18 months, and with them went his lead in the election polls. In his last question of the final Presidential debate, he had to explain why his approval rating had been cut in half:


REPORTER: Mr. President, why have you dropped so dramatically in the leadership polls, from the high 80s to the 40s? And you have said that you will do anything you have to do to get reelected. What can you do in two weeks to win reelection?

Bush41's ratings ended up in the 30s on election day from what I remember. Of course they started to improve once he left office because the man was likable otherwise. The problem for the Demos this year, much like the GOP in 1996 is that they are attacking a likable president personally. In 1992 Clinton and Perot were attacking Bush on his record in office.

[Tommy Duncan]

Forget 30s GHWB was hitting the 20s by the time of the GOP convention. So much for another forum liberal wet dream.

ap.grolier.com/article?as...ticle.html

At first Bush's reelection prospects in 1992 seemed promising, but voters began to focus more on their fears about the U.S. economy than on Bush's international successes. Patrick Buchanan, a conservative newspaper columnist, challenged Bush for the GOP (Grand Old Party) presidential nomination, attacking him for reneging on his pledge not to raise taxes. By the time of the Republican convention one survey showed that the president's approval rating had fallen to 29%. Bush and Vice President Quayle were renominated without opposition-Buchanan eventually having endorsed the president-but the strident tone of convention speakers and the party's very conservative platform did not help the national ticket.