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  1. #1
    Tommy Duncan
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    I think it will be interesting to get a perspective on how this election is playing out on a state by state basis. After all, this is a tad bit more relevant to the current presidential election than discussing whether or not the Neocons intend to invade Mars for the benefit of the Illuminati or whatever.

    I've created threads for states which have had a recent poll with a spread of less than 10%. If such a poll appears for a state not on the list, then I will create a thread for that state.

    Arkansas 6 EV
    Arizona 10 EV
    California 55 EV
    Colorado 9 EV
    Connecticut 7 EV
    Delaware 3 EV
    Florida 27 EV
    Illinois 21 EV
    Iowa 7 EV
    Maine 4 EV
    Maryland 10 EV
    Michigan 17 EV
    Minnesota 10 EV
    Missouri 11 EV
    Nevada 5 EV
    New Hampshire 4 EV
    New Jersey 15 EV
    New Mexico 5 EV
    New York 31 EV
    North Carolina 15 EV
    Ohio 20 EV
    Oregon 7 EV
    Pennsylvania 21 EV
    South Carolina 8 EV
    Tennessee 11 EV
    Virginia 13 EV
    Washington state 11 EV
    West Virginia 5 EV
    Wisconsin 10 EV

  2. #2
    Joe Chalupa
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    Thanks for stating your position.

  3. #3
    Joe Chalupa
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    Maybe it is just your current state of mind.

  4. #4
    DeSPURado
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    Man you mean you could have done it, in one thread?

  5. #5
    Tommy Duncan
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    Um no, nagging .

  6. #6
    DeSPURado
    Guest
    Quit spamming then.

  7. #7
    Tommy Duncan
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    Excuse me? Sorry if I am not obsessed with what Bush did 30 years ago.

  8. #8
    DeSPURado
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    How many threads were created on that topic in the last week. I counted 3.

  9. #9
    Joe Chalupa
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    Bring it on Tommy!

  10. #10
    Tommy Duncan
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    Good for you. You've posted incessantly in here about the Bush Guard crap that no one really cares about.

  11. #11
    DeSPURado
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    You mean the most popular thread in the politics forum ever?

  12. #12
    Tommy Duncan
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    1. Who started it?

    2. It was about the docs being fake.

  13. #13
    DeSPURado
    Guest
    The docs being fake related to what?

  14. #14
    Yonivore
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    Related to something Dan Rather made up.

  15. #15
    Tommy Duncan
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    That wasn't the primary issue.

  16. #16
    DeSPURado
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    Dan Rather made it up? Gee I thought Burkett faxed it to him.

  17. #17
    Yonivore
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    And, gee, Rather was warned by everyone to whom he showed the do ents that there were SERIOUS questions to their authenticity -- yet, he chose to present them on national T.V. as being the real deal.

    Yeah, Dan Rather lied! Big Time.

  18. #18
    DeSPURado
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    He messed up, You can't say he lied. Nor can you prove it.

  19. #19
    Yonivore
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    Okay, as a journalist...he showed do ents to experts who told him they thought they were fakes. He found one that said the signature looked real but that he could not authenticate the provenance of the do ents becuase they were copies of copies of...you get it.

    So, he goes on national television and says the do ents are real, that an expert has authenticated them, and that's that. Nothing about the dissenters.

    A non-biased journalist would have also revealed the questions raised.

    He lied. His ratings are already showing the public believes he lied. And, the polls are already showing they believe Kerry or his campaign were involved.

    Yep, he lied. He withheld exculpatory information because he believed the story he was trying to tell was true but he didn't have any facts to support it...so, he took do ents of extremely questionable origin and used them as support for a Dan Rather theory.

    I saw an appropriate analogy earlier today:
    "A lot of scientific fraud cases are like this. Someone becomes convinced that a theory is true, becomes frustrated in his efforts to prove it and decides to fabricate the evidence to prove it. It is unlikely that Dan Rather did the fabricating, but Rather is like the head of the lab that disregarded all clues that fraud was occurring. Under such cir stances the rules in science would be that Rather would get dismissed too."

  20. #20
    Joe Chalupa
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    In Rather's defense...he reported based on the intelligence he had at the time.
    Things like this happen.
    Sincerely,
    Dubya

  21. #21
    exstatic
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    ^^RACK THAT!!^^

  22. #22
    Yonivore
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    The difference between Rather and what your implying, with your pithy little comment, is that there are no negative consequence to Rather waiting until he had definitive proof...unless it was his purpose to damage Bush and help Kerry, which is a bigger problem than just rushing to air with a story based on questionable intelligence.

  23. #23
    Tommy Duncan
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    Please direct your posts about Dan Rather, Bush's missed meeting 30 years ago, and what not to here. Thanks.

  24. #24
    Joe Chalupa
    Guest
    Oh come on Yonivore.

    My little comment was funny. :p

  25. #25
    Nbadan
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    Someone needs to get a administrator to sticky this post on top of the forum for awhile. Anyone?

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