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    Overall. Why isn't Scoot playing? Is Sharpe still hurt? Portland deciding they're just too good for this level?

    Bouyea. I like what he has. Maybe not NBA material, but a deep bench player who does the right things all around the court. He's already 25 so the ship has probably sailed, but he's good. Dude needs to just shave it bald though.

    Ingram. I like him overall, a smart player who will do better with more structure, but probably too limited physically for this level.

    Cissoko. I see what Pop means about his physical gifts, but unless he can be effective in the halfcourt setting I don't see it for him. A decent swing, though.

    Castle. Uncharacteristic sloppiness down the stretch. Two balls outright thrown away, not something I've seen from him, and bad shots. Still not worried about his shooting at all. Playing a new level and pace, sometimes players think about what they're doing on the floor rather than getting the shot right. I remember him being very good at midrange and fully expect him to be nailing those high paint touches before long.

    Driving me crazy how close he is getting 8-second violations nearly every time getting to the timeline. Jesus Christ, dude. He also lacks the burst to manufacture offense from a standstill; he needs picks to activate. But once he gets going, though, his strength is really hard to handle for many of these guards. They bounce right off him. Playing with Wemby and Vassell will carve out space enough for him to be a menace. Active on the boards. Down low superb at spotting skip passes and placing them so far. A ton to like here.

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    Good stuff. That pass at :47 for example, he makes it because of sensing where everyone is stationed and focused. If the guy dropped in the lane isn't where he is and looking at the action, he can't make the pass. But he already has a superb knack of sensing what defenders are doing, where they are leaning, what they are attending to. Working with Paul will reap extraordinary rewards for a guy who already has a clear bbiq of many of the little things.

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    Sidy’s been more impressive to me than Ingram, at least. While I think Sidy can still develop into a worthwhile NBA player if he puts everything together, Ingram in my mind won’t be long for this league.
    Despite Pop claiming that he thinks Cissoko is going to be a "special" player, Ingram has a much clearer path to becoming a legit NBA player (poor man's Barnes?) because while both have the frame to defend power wings and will have to make it as off ball players, he's at least a theoretical shooter as opposed to a non one.

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    Sidy should get a higher grade with his defense. At times I’ve seen him banging with Clingan. I’m not sure he lost weight coz he sure looks strong defending his post.

    And those asking Castle to speed it up, he has the perfect tempo. He looks big out there and will only get stronger. Comp to Jimmy Butler is warranted with the better court vision.

    And Mensah played great outplaying Clingan. Many thought it would be lopsided. But the Spurs are showing great defense, that includes Bouyea!! Way to start the Las Vegas Summer League.

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    would like to see the same starting lineup today,Cause man they looked good defence wise and moving the ball.

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    Despite Pop claiming that he thinks Cissoko is going to be a "special" player, Ingram has a much clearer path to becoming a legit NBA player (poor man's Barnes?) because while both have the frame to defend power wings and will have to make it as off ball players, he's at least a theoretical shooter as opposed to a non one.
    Sidy has the better court vision and passing, and maybe stronger defender too and high motor.

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    Sidy has the better court vision and passing, and maybe stronger defender too and high motor.
    I'm aware. As I said though, for off ball players, it's going to come down to being able to space the floor and Cissoko is a lot further away from that from Ingram.

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    sidy cisskko is pretty much wesley just a wing.Guy gotta make the open shots if hes on the court.

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    the thing people miss is his ability to manipulate the defense. He's already elite at that. Looking the other way, then making one handed skip passes out of a live dribble to the corners. That's elite playmaking. Putting his defenders on his hip, navigating screens, finishing through contact. You don't expect a prospect of his age to be this advanced in that department.

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    They need to develop Sidy into a Bruce Bowen type role. Defensive savant that can kill it in the corner three. Sidy is more athletic than Bruce. He’s just got to spend hours and hours shooting corner 3’s.

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    They need to develop Sidy into a Bruce Bowen type role. Defensive savant that can kill it in the corner three. Sidy is more athletic than Bruce. He’s just got to spend hours and hours shooting corner 3’s.
    he first has to work on not hitting the backboard

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    Castle's locker should be right next to CP0s. Rook should soak in as much as he can for however long Paul is here tbh. The playstyle, the pace, mentality, etc. is pretty damn similar except Castle is half a foot taller tbh.

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    I hope Castle is not the next Evan Turner

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    I'm also on the same line as you're usually are, almost word for word most of the time, but regarding that topic, I actually wanted to ask in my post what ACTUAL star/ difference maker is a non, or even average, shooter in this league... Since I'm not sure if we're talking about the same thing here and all the names you bring are role players, including Dejounte who's shown he's not a real difference maker or that second star, let alone Sochan.

    And yes, you can improve shooting but a few percents can go a long way and looking at the league, I'm not seeng many (real) stars who can help you ring who are average at shooting... All gifted that he is, Irving was a non factor with his bad shooting outings in the finals, while BOS had shooters all over the floor (OK, Tatum wasn't that great)

    Then regarding other facets of Castle game (notably playmaking), let's cool down a bit too here. He didn't come as a natural PG, and it's not because he somehow hold his own and was OK against summer league no names that he suddently became a natural playmaker. He can become a decent one but that'll never be an elite, natural PG. That's not his niche or future in the NBA... If spurs get a Nolan type player next year, Castle will play 2/3 as a spur.

    I mean, Sidy's playmaking and passing was also praised last summer league to such a point you could hear Boris comparisons. And now Castle is "Russell Westbrook, but with skills". Wow, easy guys, it's summer league and it's fortunate the kid can play basketball, that's why he was drafted. But Let's Castle show he can even be a starter before going bananas.
    I agree with most your points but do we need Castle to become a star?

    We have a non traditional star big man that doesn't requires to have a traditional PG, we need Castle to be a link on offense and take advantage of the many open looks he'll get, not to go 1vs1 all the time or be a floor general.

    I see his ceiling as a very very good maybe elite role player and that would be an amazing outcome for the Spurs

    + We don't need anothe star, we need a lot of very good, high IQ, highly skilled role players (like Lauri). Wemby doesn't even act like a star, why bring one that could mess up eveything with ego trips?

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    BTW it might have been said already but Pop's description of Sidy is hillarious and sums up PATFO's taste perfectly, he loves everything about him.... but he can't shoot the damn ball

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    BTW it might have been said already but Pop's description of Sidy is hillarious and sums up PATFO's taste perfectly, he loves everything about him.... but he can't shoot the damn ball
    lol. Very true.

    I also agree with that you wrote in your previous post too.

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    Sidy is a bust, face the truth

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    I agree with most your points but do we need Castle to become a star?

    We have a non traditional star big man that doesn't requires to have a traditional PG, we need Castle to be a link on offense and take advantage of the many open looks he'll get, not to go 1vs1 all the time or be a floor general.

    I see his ceiling as a very very good maybe elite role player and that would be an amazing outcome for the Spurs

    + We don't need anothe star, we need a lot of very good, high IQ, highly skilled role players (like Lauri). Wemby doesn't even act like a star, why bring one that could mess up eveything with ego trips?
    We need better talent and that is probably only come through the draft ..........

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    Sidy is a bust, face the truth
    Yeah, he is not looking good but I always new he was a three year project so lets see how much progress he can make and see where he is at end of this upcoming season

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    We need better talent and that is probably only come through the draft ..........
    It's the safe and patient way indeed, but u can also get one via trade...

    I keep thinking of the impact Lauri could have, just this move can change everthing.

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    Yeah, he is not looking good but I always new he was a three year project so lets see how much progress he can make and see where he is at end of this upcoming season
    His contract this season is mostly guaranteed, like 85%, but next year he’s non guaranteed. He’s got to show better shooting, a lot better, and better half court offense. If not,he’ll likely be a roster spot and cap casualty.

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