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I mean, I'm from Asia so it's not really my business, but isn't it like 4 or 5 AM in the US?
You don't sleep LJ?
I mean, I'm from Asia so it's not really my business, but isn't it like 4 or 5 AM in the US?
You don't sleep LJ?
would like to see castle play faster.I know fans say thats not his game.But i think he can overwhelm defences and get
points for himself and make plays easier if he picks up the temple once he touches the ball.But the playmaking potential
is there for sure.
"If his jumper improves" is gonna be the story of Castle and most NBA players. 8/21 aint gonna do it for a career.
I mean,, that's what BB is mainly about, speciially for guards/wings today: shooting. If you can't shoot, you're useless or a weakness, even as a defensive specialist. So yeah, Castle better (realtively) quicky develop a reliable shoot, Wemby' not gonna wait 4 years before Castle becomes (maybe) a 32% 3 pt shooter...
But I do'nt believe spurs see Castle as a co-star for this team anyway, and I do'nt believe we should. This WAS a weak draft, and the pick doesn't make the player. Castle is probably borderline lottery next year.
Last edited by JPB; 07-14-2024 at 05:00 AM.
I usually agree with your takes, but you're way off on this one.
Believe it or not, shooting is among the easier things to improve for guards. He'll obviously never be a lights out shooter, but with all the other skills he has, he doesn't need to.
There are numerous guards in the league who were poor or even non-shooters, but eventually became good shooters.
Castle is way ahead of rookie DJ for example.
He's way ahead of Jeremy, obviously.
On the other hand, if a guard comes into the league without natural primary playmaker instincts and the feel for making tough passes, he's never going to learn it.
Way more difficult to develop.
Positive defenders at guard positions are also at a premiuim. Not having to hide your lead guard would be a huge advantage.
And yet we've seen more limited minutes or even DNPs for bad defenders in these playoffs than ever before.I mean,, that's what BB is mainly about, speciially for guards/wings today: shooting. If you can't shoot, you're useless or a weakness, even as a defensive specialist. So yeah, Castle better (realtively) quicky develop a reliable shoot, Wemby' not gonna wait 4 years before Castle becomes (maybe) a 32% 3 pt shooter...
Even for some of the best shooters in the league, like Buddy Hield.
If you can't defend, you're not playing.
You need to have two out of three skills on a good level to have playoff minutes as a perimeter player.
Plamyking, shooting, defense.
Castle already looks like a natural point guard and will be a parennial all-defense candidate, no doubt about it.
Shooting obviously determines his ceiling, but even as a 32% 3pt shooter he'd be a valuable starter.
You know who else was a career 32% shooter up until this year? De'Aaron Fox. While being a solid defender at best.
Castle first needs to develop that FT line pull up he'll always have due to Wemby's gravity, we don't need him jacking up threes early on.
I was thinking the same thing with Castle. In regards what he should focus more on first the 3 ball and a go to mid-range shot. I was thinking the mid-range shot would really open up his game more.
well the thing is he can shoot. He just has to up his efficiency, which seems easily attainable giving his shooting stroke and ability to knock down shots off the dribble. He might need 2 seasons, but he'll get there eventually. Developing a midrange jumper from the FT line would go a long way, since he can get to his spot with ease.
he's exactly what i hoped he'd be, a poor man's mike conley. Def not a starter this year, but should be getting reps next year
You realize that 8/21 is 38%, and would do just fine as a career 3 point mark, right?
Have you ever watched Mike Conley play?
8/21 was his numbers from the field yesterday
The context was unclear, since we mostly seem interested in his 3 point shooting.
In his 3 summer league games he has shot 37% from the field and 25% from 3
I'm also on the same line as you're usually are, almost word for word most of the time, but regarding that topic, I actually wanted to ask in my post what ACTUAL star/ difference maker is a non, or even average, shooter in this league... Since I'm not sure if we're talking about the same thing here and all the names you bring are role players, including Dejounte who's shown he's not a real difference maker or that second star, let alone Sochan.
And yes, you can improve shooting but a few percents can go a long way and looking at the league, I'm not seeng many (real) stars who can help you ring who are average at shooting... All gifted that he is, Irving was a non factor with his bad shooting outings in the finals, while BOS had shooters all over the floor (OK, Tatum wasn't that great)
Then regarding other facets of Castle game (notably playmaking), let's cool down a bit too here. He didn't come as a natural PG, and it's not because he somehow hold his own and was OK against summer league no names that he suddently became a natural playmaker. He can become a decent one but that'll never be an elite, natural PG. That's not his niche or future in the NBA... If spurs get a Nolan type player next year, Castle will play 2/3 as a spur.
I mean, Sidy's playmaking and passing was also praised last summer league to such a point you could hear Boris comparisons. And now Castle is "Russell Westbrook, but with skills". Wow, easy guys, it's summer league and it's fortunate the kid can play basketball, that's why he was drafted. But Let's Castle show he can even be a starter before going bananas.
Last edited by JPB; 07-14-2024 at 08:26 AM.
Jimmy Butler. 12 seasons, and only one could be considered good percentage 3 point shooting with acceptable volume, his 6th year. Career 32.9% from 3. Six time All NBA selection.
Castle wasn't shooting it very well at all yesterday. And not just from 3. I counted two air balls and a third shot that just barely glanced the front of the rim. And his first 3 ball wasn't especially close.
It was a strange night for him as he hasn't looked that poor with his inside the 3 pt line shooting before.
I don't know how Cissoko can be a professional basketball player for years and still not know how to shoot. His knee is clearly feeling good because his movement is shocking on both ends. He set the tone for that blowout.
Castle's stats show how inefficient he is, but he passes the eye test in every way. Murray didn't look this good in SL. Leonard didn't look this good in SL. It isn't an indication of where he will end up but all the tools are there for him. The biggest problem he is going to have is likely our wanting to push him to develop faster and being disappointed if he isn't an all star by next season.
^Jazz Athletic writer
As Castle gets more exposure, the amount of props from players and media is going to continue to rise
As I mentioned before, De'Aaron Fox was a 32% career shooter up until this season.
Exstatic mentioned Jimmy.
Demar's issue isn't lack of 3pt shot, but being a traffic cone on defense.
Jrue was a career 34% shooter before he got to Milwaukee at the age of 30.
Kyrie was a non-factor because he's a 6'2 guard who's a negative on defense even on his best day.And yes, you can improve shooting but a few percents can go a long way and looking at the league, I'm not seeng many (real) stars who can help you ring who are average at shooting... All gifted that he is, Irving was a non factor with his bad shooting outings in the finals, while BOS had shooters all over the floor (OK, Tatum wasn't that great)
Luka is 6'7 and his defense was just ugly to watch. He gave up most of the points he created on offense.
How many primary ballhandlers are all-defense level in today's league?
Celtics have two and guess what, they just won a ring.
Yeah, Derrick's shooting improvements are amazing to see, but they didn't trade for him because of his shooting.
Edwards isn't a lead guard, but we can add him to the list. And obviously SGA.
Castle already looks to be a better playmaker than Suggs and has 2 or 3 inches on him.
He absolutely did. He was a natural point guard all the way up to last year with UConn.Then regarding other facets of Castle game (notably playmaking), let's cool down a bit too here. He didn't come as a natural PG
He was up against SL compe ion, but his teammates aren't any better.and it's not because he somehow hold his own and was OK against summer league no names that he suddently became a natural playmaker.
When it comes to playmaking, the level of defense doesn't really matter if we're looking at someone's decision making, pass timing and accuracy.
He's just a natural. Full speed passes, shovel passes, bounce passes, cross-court skip passes, dump off, even a few lobs. All looked well-timed.
And while his shooting and offensive game needs work, he never looked like he's in a hurry. Has that snake dribble to easily get into the paint and at his size, there's not much defenders can do once he gets there.
What's a natural PG? We don't need a heliocentric point guard to average 10 assists. We need Castle to become a Jrue type point guard and we're close to being unstoppable.He can become a decent one but that'll never be an elite, natural PG.
Forget about Nolan, what we need are wings.That's not his niche or future in the NBA... If spurs get a Nolan type player next year, Castle will play 2/3 as a spur.
If we don't get Markkanen, we need someone similar.
6'8-6'10 shooters that aren't a negative on defense is all we need if Castle and Devin develop.
ESPN are unserious and don't know .I mean, Sidy's playmaking and passing was also praised last summer league to such a point you could hear Boris comparisons.
Sidy's passing is good for a SRP wing, but nowhere near good enough for the big league.
Noone said that.And now Castle is "Russell Westbrook, but with skills".
Is shooting was a known issue and wasn’t going to vanish between the draft and summer league. The other question was the point guard chops and through three games it’s hard to be anything but encouraged in that department.
The way that Castle handles the ball, creates plays for himself and others, and is able to produce at a high level in summer league (despite still being a teenager!) makes it clear to me that he's a budding star. I know much has been said about his jumper, but the form looks fine to me. With enough reps, I'm confident it will improve.
The old man buttering Sidy up during his interview makes me think his spot is secure heading into next year. But I'd cut him if he doesnt show anything in training camp tbh. Maybe it's the knee injury but I haven't see much improvement at all from Year 1 > Year 2.
He’s mostly guaranteed like 85-90%, so he’s probably not going anywhere. I see him as a cap and roster spot casualty next summer, though.
Sidy’s been more impressive to me than Ingram, at least. While I think Sidy can still develop into a worthwhile NBA player if he puts everything together, Ingram in my mind won’t be long for this league.
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