Grading the Off-Season (as of Mid July)

[rascal]

C

The Good Castle, still not a playoff team so will get a 25 lottery pick

The Bad the typical conservative moves bringing back most of the team and not bringing in huge difference makers if you really wanted to make the playoffs this year

[baseline bum]

It's too early to grade. Keldon and Collins will be traded. Spurs wants to compete this season. There is no way they keep these two guys.

Realistically and ideally, they will be traded for Lauri. If this happens, I will give a A+ grade.

But in case this falls through, I believe Spurs already had plan B. Trade Keldon + 2 FRPS for Cam Johnson; Trade Collins + Cash + 1 FRP for Bucks's Lopez. This will still be a solid A.

In what world is Cam Johnson worth 2FRP?

[Mr. Body]

Lol, damn, I'd rather get Harrison Barnes on a free than pay two FRPs for Cam Johnson, or any picks for Cam Johnson.

[ambchang]

I like the castle pick, still not a fan of not picking Cody Williams at 8 or trading Furphy away.

Sort of happy with the Paul trade and thought the Barnes “trade” was highway robbery for us, simply ingenious.

Would’ve liked a young shooter, a starting SF or a backup centre. Not trading Zollins away for assets was a downer (maybe couldn’t have been done), glad keldon is still on board.

[widowmaker]

Hows dillinghams summer league going by the way?

[widowmaker]

Hows furphy”s summer league going by the way? I haven’t bothered to look.

[spurraider21]

Hows dillinghams summer league going by the way?

his shot hasnt been falling, but his passing/creation is as good if not better than advertised

defense has been quite the ride as expected... but he did quite well man to man against jared mccain last game. forced a lot of tough shots

[Ariel]

Hows furphy”s summer league going by the way? I haven’t bothered to look.

Didn't watch Minnesota, but he's been inefficient. Read somewhere that he's been playing through some sort of injury, ankle if I'm not mistaken, and that has affected his speed. But like just about every prospect, we can't read too much into summer league, a couple of months into the season we'll have a much more clear picture.

[widowmaker]

his shot hasnt been falling, but his passing/creation is as good if not better than advertised

defense has been quite the ride as expected... but he did quite well man to man against jared mccain last game. forced a lot of tough shots

Not bad I guess I will be left to wonder if maybe he would have worked out over here.

[widowmaker]

Didn't watch Minnesota, but he's been inefficient. Read somewhere that he's been playing through some sort of injury, ankle if I'm not mistaken, and that has affected his speed. But like just about every prospect, we can't read too much into summer league, a couple of months into the season we'll have a much more clear picture.

Let me see if I can find some highlights. Yeah summer league is summer league but it’s still basketball.

[offset formation]

Matas is gonna be a beast. He was #4 on my board.

[spurraider21]

Not bad I guess I will be left to wonder if maybe he would have worked out over here.

with castle passing the eye test in a point guard role, not sure he would have been their natural 2nd pick anyway. the spurs only "drafted dillingham" at the request of the Wolves to facilitate the trade. while possible he would have been their guy at 8 anyway, may not be the case if theyve thought of castle as a PG all along. cody williams was probably being considered imo

[widowmaker]

with castle passing the eye test in a point guard role, not sure he would have been their natural 2nd pick anyway. the spurs only "drafted dillingham" at the request of the Wolves to facilitate the trade. while possible he would have been their guy at 8 anyway, may not be the case if theyve thought of castle as a PG all along. cody williams was probably being considered imo

They should have just kept the pick instead of panicking and taking draft picks that most likely won’t pan out in 2030, 2031.

[rjv]

i'll cast my vote in april '25.

[spurraider21]

They should have just kept the pick instead of panicking and taking draft picks that most likely won’t pan out in 2030, 2031.

look man we're just going to have to agree to agree on this one

[TimmyBuckets]

LMAO ST will find any reason to hate on this team.

We didn't trade 5 picks, Vassell, KJ, Sochan, The Alamo for Markannen or Trae and and we didn't want Demar, Klay. We gave up #8 pick in a terrible draft for a top-1 unprotected and a pick swap which is amazing. Nothing less than an A. We got CP3 for cheap and we got Barnes and a pick swap for nothing. What else exactly should they have done?

[K...]

Matas is gonna be a beast. He was #4 on my board.

i honestly think boozy was the secret number 8 pick before they traded it away.

[Mugen]

Probably a C+ / B- ....need to see what ends up happening with the Dilly trade assets

The Good:
-Liked the Castle pick though it seemed like a no brainer with who was left on the board
-Reed might end up being the best player of the draft but I wasn't in favor of them trading up to #2 to get him tbh. Can't fault them much if at all if he ends up being really good
-Liked the CP3 pickup but his main contribution will be mentoring Castle
-Like the Barnes deal (but would have preferred Huerter). Im not too annoyed that they ate into next year's cap space.
-Happy that Mamu/Bassey are back and that they kept Champ

The Bad:
-Annoyed that they couldn't find a way to keep Barlow who I think will be the best out of him, Mamu, and Bassey
-Just really hated what they did in the draft after the Castle pick. I liked Dilly but would have been fine if they went with a guy like Carter/Knecht/etc. Not convinced that a team with prime Anthony Edwards is gonna be that bad to make those 2030/2031 assets that appealing.
-Absolutely hated what they did in the 2nd round tbh. Reeks of laziness/cheapness.

[Frenchfred]

i'll cast my vote in april '25.

exactly, the Spurs are tanking again in 2024-2025 and hope to have a top pick.

[Ignazzz]

Weak A

[exstatic]

Not bad I guess I will be left to wonder if maybe he would have worked out over here.

They weren’t ever drafting and keeping Dillingham.

[timtonymanu]

F. Pop is still the coach.

[widowmaker]

They weren’t ever drafting and keeping Dillingham.

Weak. They could have found a spot for him if they are that good at developing.

[K...]

Weak. They could have found a spot for him if they are that good at developing.

Spoiler they aren't and you can't teach size

[Arguendo]

Building on what? Wesley, Branham, Sochan, Tre, Keldon, Collins...? Or Mamu, Bassey and Sidy? Or the corpses of Paul and Barnes?

This poll is really refreshing to see the myopic, impatient, cliff jumpers are WAY fewer than they appear on this board.
Building on what? How about the ing best defensive player in the league entering his second yr. How about a guy who looks prime to be both the best on O & D. Who else has done that in the modern era? Jordan (maybe DR & Hakeem have an argument in 94/95 but only bc Jordan’s gambling suspension.)

How many ing teams wouldn't trade positions (Roster + picks + cap situation) with the Spurs?
Bos, OKC, NY, Dal, Min- they all think/hope they can win multi les in the next 5 yrs. Note all have a young Top6 guy + Brunson/Nova Knicks.
Den, Phi, Orl, Ind- they’re maybes bc they think they can win one more or get to that 1st lvl.
Many of these teams won’t win & will start blowing it up in 2yrs (& the Spurs will have the cap space & the pieces to get into any of those blow-up trades)

Everyone else would absolutely change position with the Spurs. Mil swaps in a heartbeat. Hou has a great War chest & a nice collection of young role players with maybe star potential but they are missing the hardest thing to get, a top #5 player. Spurs have that, the next face of the NBA.

Spurs are in amazing shape, even if you conveniently leave out Vassel & Castle. Good to see so clearly you are nothing but a clown or a troll.