Donald Trump - the first female president of USA

[SnakeBoy]

You may be right for political discussions but, for scientific questions, who has the time to research an answer to such questions, for a political forum?

I went back and asked ChatGPT to source it's response:




Call me lazy but, I don't pretend to have a PhD in biology, embryology, or genetics. If you do, I'd be interested in how your responses to my questions would differ.

lol why are you trying to have a conversation with Chump?

[Yonivore]

For the purposes of the Trump government, it's safe to say they don't exist and shouldn't be addressed.

I don't think it's safe to say any such thing. Why don't you call the White House and ask? I'm sure the subject will bubble to the top of the news cycle eventually.

Afflicted?

Fantasize?

your words

Yes, they are my words.

Intersex individuals are afflicted with a biological abnormality making their outward sexual iden y ambiguous. Transgenders just choose to be trans, even though they can look between their legs and know which sex they are.

Sure seems to be the point of the EO. Erase anything that doesn't fit the text. Done and done.

I'll wait and see.

[Yonivore]

lol why are you trying to have a conversation with Chump?

It's been awhile and I needed some punishment, I suppose.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't think it's safe to say any such thing. Why don't you call the White House and ask?

Don't need to. I read the EO. Those are Trump's words. He chose them.

Yes, they are my words.

I'll wait and see.

Waiting for another EO? Why is Trump waiting only on this population of American citizens?

[Yonivore]

Don't need to. I read the EO. Those are Trump's words. He chose them.

I couldn't find the word "intersex" in the EO. Did you?

Waiting for another EO? Why is Trump waiting only on this population of American citizens?

Maybe they already correctly identify. Like I said, where are the intersex individuals that believe they are being discriminated against by this EO? Name one. Every article I saw only talks about how this is going to affect the Trans community. Why is the Trans community ignoring this population, Chump?

Could it be it's because they're not a part of the conversation?

[ChumpDumper]

I couldn't find the word "intersex" in the EO.

Exactly! You might be understanding it now.

Maybe they already correctly identify.

What is "correct"? Who determines whether an identification is "correct"?

[z0sa]

Well, the joke is dismantling the liberal, progressive, woke mess created by Democrats. So, I guess the laugh is on you.

For the uneducated and dimwitted, the ovum is a large single cell and the sperm is a much smaller single cell. Males do not produce ovi and females do not produce sperm. They had to make it simple for you and, yet, you still fail to grasp it. Maybe try reading the entire Executive Order, eh?

Here, I've conveniently linked it for you:

DEFENDING WOMEN FROM GENDER IDEOLOGY EXTREMISM AND RESTORING BIOLOGICAL TRUTH TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

Friend, there's a reason males still have nipples. We are all biologically female at conception until the Y chromosome is expressed, which almost always occurs after a fetal heartbeat is already detectable.

This isn't up for debate. It's moronic. But the anti-education/intelligence conservative voters won't understand or care.

[Yonivore]

Exactly! You might be understanding it now.

It's missing from all the articles I read on the EO, as well. Why are those complaining about the EO not mentioning the intersex population?

What is "correct"? Who determines what is a "correct" identification?

It's not who, it's what. It's biology. It a couple things called chromosomes. Maybe we should come up with a Schoolhouse Rock song explaining it for you Chump.

[Yonivore]

Friend, there's a reason males still have nipples. We are all biologically female at conception until the Y chromosome is expressed, which almost always occurs after a fetal heartbeat is already detectable.

This isn't up for debate. It's moronic. But the anti-education/intelligence conservative voters won't understand or care.

Reading is fundamental, z0sa. We've already covered this ground. Sex is determined at conception - argue with the scientists, not me.

[ChumpDumper]

It's missing from all the articles I read on the EO, as well. Why are those complaining about the EO not mentioning the intersex population?

That has nothing to do with this conversation.

It's not who, it's what. It's biology. It a couple things called chromosomes. Maybe we should come up with a Schoolhouse Rock song explaining it for you Chump.

What is the correct identification for an intersex person? You can answer in song form if you think it helps you.

[Blake]

You make a fair point so, let's look at that.

McBride's statement notwithstanding, what does science say?

Well science basically says this; and I'll simplify for you:

All Ovum have a single "X" chromosome. All Sperm have a single chromosome that can either be an "X" or a "Y." If a sperm with the "X" chromosome fertilizes the egg the baby will be a girl. If a sperm with the "Y" chromosome fertilizes the egg the baby will be a boy. And, while it takes a few weeks for sexual organs to start forming, this fact is immutable.

Several sources stated this, in as many words:

"A person’s sex is determined at conception. Males have a set of XY chromosomes and females have a set of XX chromosomes. These sex chromosomes determine whether the embryo develops as a male or female. Initially the gonads in both male and female embryos can develop as either testes or ovaries. Starting at 8 weeks gestation, an embryo with a Y-chromosome produces a factor known as SRY that simultaneously causes the gonads to begin maturing as testes and prevents them from maturing as ovaries. The testes, in turn, produce two important hormones: testosterone and anti-Mullerian Hormone, or AMH. In males, the testes starts producing and releasing testosterone by 10 weeks. Testosterone allows the primitive male anatomy to mature, while AMH causes the primitive female structures to shrivel. The male internal ducts consist of a pair of tubes called the mesonephric ducts that will mature into the vas deferens and epididymis. The epididymis stores sperm, and the vas deferens is the sperm duct. "

Other than being a transgender with an obvious stake in the answer, I'm not sure what McBride's credentials, in the field of human development might be. Do enlighten me.


Not defending the EO. At first, and still, your point is well-taken. I simply think McBride is misrepresenting the fact that AT CONCEPTION, if the sperm (the smaller of the two reproductive cells) fertilizes the ovum (the larger of the two reproductive cells) and is carrying an "X" chromosome, the resulting human will only be able to produce the larger reproductive cell, making it a female. If, on the other hand, the sperm is carrying a "Y" chromosome, when it breaks on through to the other side, the resulting human will only be able to produce the smaller reproductive cell, making it a male.

Lol "several sources stated this....".

Post the links.

[Yonivore]

That has nothing to do with this conversation.

It has everything to do with this conversation. You seem to be the only one bothered by it.

What is the correct identification for an intersex person? You can answer in song form if you think it helps you.

Here, argue with ChatGPT, I agree with it. If I am to understand, most people intersex individuals know their sex. Those that don't, don't care to know because it doesn't impact their life.

Most people who are **visibly intersex at birth** or experience **unexpected biological differences later in life** typically undergo medical evaluations to understand their condition. However, whether an intersex person actively seeks to determine their biological sex depends on several factors:

1. Intersex at Birth (Diagnosed Early)

Doctors usually conduct tests at birth if an infant has ambiguous genitalia (e.g., a mix of male and female anatomical traits).

Parents and doctors may pursue chromosomal, hormonal, and imaging tests to determine medical needs.

Some intersex conditions (e.g., Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia, Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome) require medical attention due to hormonal imbalances.

2. Intersex Identified in Adolescence or Adulthood

Some intersex individuals do not realize they are intersex until puberty when they experience:

- Atypical development (e.g., a genetic male (XY) developing breasts or a genetic female (XX) not menstruating).
- Infertility or unexplained medical issues, prompting genetic testing later in life.

- In such cases, individuals may pursue medical evaluations if symptoms lead them to seek answers.

3. People Who Never Seek Testing
- Many mild intersex conditions (e.g., XXY Klinefelter Syndrome, mild Androgen Insensitivity) may go undiagnosed for life, especially if they do not cause noticeable differences.
- Some intersex individuals choose not to investigate further because:
- They do not experience significant health or iden y issues.
- They do not feel the need to classify themselves strictly as male or female.
- Cultural, religious, or personal beliefs make them hesitant to explore their biological sex further.

Conclusion

Most visibly intersex individuals undergo medical evaluations at birth or during puberty, but many others never seek testing if they do not experience health complications or iden y concerns. For some, the question of "biological sex" may not feel personally relevant.

The only intersex individuals not addressed in the EO are those with Klinefelter Syndrome but, these are all males and, according to The Chatmeister, their most common symptoms would not cause one to have gender dysphoria. In fact, most males don't even know they have it until after puberty.

So, again, what's your beef with the Executive Order?

[Blake]

It has everything to do with this conversation. You seem to be the only one bothered by it.


Here, argue with ChatGPT, I agree with it. If I am to understand, most people intersex individuals know their sex. Those that don't, don't care to know because it doesn't impact their life.


The only intersex individuals not addressed in the EO are those with Klinefelter Syndrome but, these are all males and, according to The Chatmeister, their most common symptoms would not cause one to have gender dysphoria. In fact, most males don't even know they have it until after puberty.

So, again, what's your beef with the Executive Order?

Why are you praising this EO? How does it affect you?

[Yonivore]

Lol "several sources stated this....".

Post the links.

Google it yourself.

Here, ask Google this question: "Is Sex determined at conception?" and see what links comprise the first page. Then, tell me one that DOESN'T say sex is determined at conception.

[ChumpDumper]

It has everything to do with this conversation. You seem to be the only one bothered by it.

Your anecdote means nothing. "I looked and didn't find anything."

Here, argue with ChatGPT, I agree with it. If I am to understand, most people intersex individuals know their sex. Those that don't, don't care to know because it doesn't impact their life.


The only intersex individuals not addressed in the EO are those with Klinefelter Syndrome but, these are all males and, according to The Chatmeister, their most common symptoms would not cause one to have gender dysphoria. In fact, most males don't even know they have it until after puberty.

So, again, what's your beef with the Executive Order?

So when needed they make their own correct decisions?

K

[Yonivore]

Why are you praising this EO? How does it affect you?

I have family.
Biological males using female bathrooms affects me, personally.
Biological males competing with female athletes affects me, personally.

[ChumpDumper]

I have family.
Biological males using female bathrooms affects me, personally.
Biological males competing with female athletes affects me, personally.

How many biological males have used a female bathroom when your family member was there.

How many family members have competed against biological men in a female-only sport?

[Yonivore]

Your anecdote means nothing. "I looked and didn't find anything."

Your assertion means nothing. I don't find anyone other than you, and maybe Blake, that are concerned about how the EO affects intersex individuals.

Is Sex determined at conception?So when needed they make their own correct decisions?

K

The decision to get tested and find out their sex. Yes. Most are tested at birth because the anomaly is obvious. Some are tested after puberty because of symptoms. Some never get tested because they don't care to know. They don't choose to be male or female they choose to find out if they are biologically male or female.

[ChumpDumper]

Your assertion means nothing. I don't find anyone other than you, and maybe Blake, that are concerned about how the EO affects intersex individuals.

Yeah, you're repeating your meaningless anecdote.

They don't choose to be male or female they choose to find out if they are biologically male or female.

What if they choose to identify differently and can pass for the appearance of sex they choose?

Do they need to be inspected before using a restroom?

[Winehole23]

So, why do we need an official state gender ideology again?

Why is it necessary to ban trans people from public accommodations? The threat to public safety is negligible, the real threat to safety is the EO.

Seems like excessive and unnecessary federal intrusion into everyday life. Feminine men and mannish women are going to catch from this policy.

[Yonivore]

How many biological males have used a female bathroom when your family member was there.

How many family members have competed against biological men in a female-only sport?

How many intersex people do you know that are affected by this Executive Order?

How many times does this have to occur for you to be concerned?

Transgender Wyoming woman convicted of sexually assaulting 10-year-old girl in bathroom

OR this:

Parent files suit after teen daughter ‘severely beaten’ by trans student in Oklahoma

OR this:

Young girl is raped in school bathroom by transgender peer

OR this:

California trans child molester, 26, gets 2 years in juvenile facility thanks to progressive DA Gascon

I didn't cherry pick. Those are the 1st four links that popped up in a DuckDuckGo search.

Then, there's the matter of athletic compe ion. Google it yourself. Stories of Transgender Female athletes severely injuring female compe ors abound. Never mind the unfair advantage their biology affords them. , even the IOC came around and changed their stupid rules.

[Yonivore]

Yeah, you're repeating your meaningless anecdote.

What if they choose to identify differently and can pass for the appearance of sex they choose?

Do they need to be inspected before using a restroom?

No.

[ChumpDumper]

How many intersex people do you know that are affected by this Executive Order?

You just said intersex people aren't mentioned in the EO.

How many times does this have to occur for you to be concerned?

Transgender Wyoming woman convicted of sexually assaulting 10-year-old girl in bathroom

OR this:

Parent files suit after teen daughter ‘severely beaten’ by trans student in Oklahoma

OR this:

Young girl is raped in school bathroom by transgender peer

OR this:

California trans child molester, 26, gets 2 years in juvenile facility thanks to progressive DA Gascon

I didn't cherry pick. Those are the 1st four links that popped up in a DuckDuckGo search.

So they are being prosecuted under existing laws? OK.

If you're going to eliminate every scenario for child rape you need to first ban the Southern Baptist Convention, the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts. Tell me the first four results you get using those terms.

Then, there's the matter of athletic compe ion. Google it yourself. Stories of Transgender Female athletes severely injuring female compe ors abound. Never mind the unfair advantage their biology affords them. , even the IOC came around and changed their stupid rules.

So the actual answer is zero.

I believe sports federations can figure that out without federal interference. Playing a sport isn't a right either way.

[Winehole23]

The average child molester in the US is a white, straight male family member or acquaintance of the victim. The demagoguery of the danger of trans is insanely detached from reality.

Classic blood libel, tbh

[ChumpDumper]

The average child molester in the US is a white, straight male family member or acquaintance of the victim

Alright, we're going to have to eliminate white straight males as they are a clear threat to children.

Also families.

Just playing the odds.