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  1. #26
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    Actually, he said what he said because LA still doesn't have a team. And every other market after LA is a smaller market.

    There aren't many (maybe 2 or 3) markets bigger than SA that don't have NFL teams.

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    Also, KSAT just now (about 5 minutes ago) showed Tags at his hotel tonight in the lobby talking to... Henry Cisneros.

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    Actually, he said what he said because LA still doesn't have a team. And every other market after LA is a smaller market.

    There aren't many (maybe 2 or 3) markets bigger than SA that don't have NFL teams.
    That's true -- but it remains true that Tagliabue wasn't commenting about getting teams out of small markets; he was saying that IF a team is to move, the league won't permit a move to a small market. Obviously, between the lines that means that the league will push the moving team into LA. The earlier post seemed to suggest that SA is qualified to have a team because it is a larger TV market than several current NFL cities. I'm just saying that Tagliabue never suggested that the league would consider that particular factor in assessing the move of any team.

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    But if you look at our economy growth pattern. New military hospital that's basically going to make us the biggest military medical ctr after reed closes next year.

    I mean.. we are friggin big now wait a few year. NFL TAG is doing the league a disservice by not planting the seed for a new team.

    This city is ing big and getting bigger.. we all know the truth.. it's n Jerry Jones and Houston Owners wanting to keep us out...

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    But if you look at our economy growth pattern. New military hospital that's basically going to make us the biggest military medical ctr after reed closes next year.

    I mean.. we are friggin big now wait a few year. NFL TAG is doing the league a disservice by not planting the seed for a new team.

    This city is ing big and getting bigger.. we all know the truth.. it's n Jerry Jones and Houston Owners wanting to keep us out...
    San Antonio is a small market not because it lacks people or resources, but because it lacks any sort of high population suburbs to make it a metropolitan area. I understand the idea of trying to argue that Austin and/or South Texas are part of the San Antonio metro area, but that's almost like arguing that Sacramento is part of metro San Francisco. It's not a unified television/media market and likely never will be -- and its that number that interests the NFL, not the sheer number of citizens in a particular city.

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    San Antonio is the city of the future.

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    First of all, San Antonio isn't a "small market", Green Bay is a "small market." The term small market gets thrown around more than a football during a Pats game.

    San Antonio is a mid-size market.

    On the level of St. Louis, Kansas City, Indy, Charlotte. Ahead of cities like Jacksonville.

    If you aren't LA, NY/NJ, Chicago, SF, Boston, or Philly you're pretty much labeled a small market in the sports world.

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    First of all, San Antonio isn't a "small market", Green Bay is a "small market." The term small market gets thrown around more than a football during a Pats game.

    San Antonio is a mid-size market.

    On the level of St. Louis, Kansas City, Indy, Charlotte. Ahead of cities like Jacksonville.
    My only disagreement on this point would be semantic. What San Antonio lacks in size in comparison with some of those markets it makes up in growth potential. StL, KC, Indy are stagnant compared to SA.

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    Mexico is more important. It's a freakin' COUNTRY.

    And I'd rather have wealthy Mexican nationals making a weekend of it over people coming in on Sunday morning and leaving Sunday afternoon.
    If that's your argument for support, San Antonio doesn't need a team! If Americans from Austin and South Texas can't support a team in San Antonio without the help of wealthy Mexicans coming across the border I say Tags was right about San Antonio being a small market and not ready for full time NFL football. They (wealthy Mexicans) should be treated as icing and not totally relied upon for a team to succeed here. Is this the real reason why San Antonio is being snubbed by Tags? Because people here think San Antonio would rely too heavily on a foreign countrys wealthy to survive? I'll vote no on the NFL if this is true!

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    If that's your argument for support, San Antonio doesn't need a team! If Americans from Austin and South Texas can't support a team in

    San Antonio without the help of wealthy Mexicans coming across the border I say Tags was right about San Antonio being a small market and not ready for full time NFL football.
    What's the difference between Texans from central Texas and south Texas driving or flying to San Antonio for a game and a Mexican national doing the same?

    I said weathly Mexican nationals are more important in terms of who I'd rather have come over.

    I'd rather have the Mexican national who will make a weekend of San Antonio because they will spend more money.

    Bottomline.

    Another bottomline is San Antonio on its own (IMO) can support the NFL.

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    What's the difference between Texans from central Texas and south Texas driving or flying to San Antonio for a game and a Mexican national doing the same?
    The only Mexican city of any import close enough to San Antonio to be considered in any kind of regional market is Monterrey.

    But then again, flying in is the only truly feasible option because of the hours of delay involved in driving across the border. At that point, they might as well fly to Dallas, or Houston, or Kansas City for that matter.

    But I agree with you that San Antonio on its own can support the NFL. It's closing in on 2 million people, and getting wealthier, with a strengthening corporate base.

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    Agree with both of you ^^^

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    What's the difference between Texans from central Texas and south Texas driving or flying to San Antonio for a game and a Mexican national doing the same?

    I said weathly Mexican nationals are more important in terms of who I'd rather have come over.

    I'd rather have the Mexican national who will make a weekend of San Antonio because they will spend more money.

    Bottomline.

    Another bottomline is San Antonio on its own (IMO) can support the NFL.
    The difference is, in order for San Antonio to qualify for the NFL, we have to show that the support is there from the LOCAL area. Mexico isn't the local area so it shouldn't be in the mix. Yes it would be great if San Antonio can lure some of the wealthy Mexican nationals into our city for a weekend excursion to watch a game if we were ever to get a team here. I'm all for that, but the NFL looks at the local community for T.V ratings and corporate sponsorship to see if the area has the needed support. Austin and South Texas is San Antonio's corporate and fan base and that's it plain and simple. If Austin and all of South Texas is considered in San Antonio's bid for a NFL team, I don't see any reason why San Antonio wouldn't qualify for an expansion team or team looking to make a move. San Antonio's 37th T.V. rating would jump considerably if Austin and South Texas were included in San Antonio's bid. At this moment Tags believes San Antonio's T.V. rating and sponsorship is small by itself. That's why Austin and the south has to come in play to get a team. I think San Antoino by itself could stand alone, but with the extra support of thoses mentioned puts San Antonio into the number one best expansion area.

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