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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    tony has to win the finals mvp to shut the haters up
    he was the leading one the first 3-4 games against the nets
    Actually, he doesn't. An argument can be made that in the last few years a team's success against the Spurs is directly linked to their ability to slow down Parker.

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    I think the main thing that makes an MVP candidate is the ability to make their teammates better. That's not to say that Tony doesn't do that, but it's hard to improve on guys like Manu and Tim. Compare that to Steve Nash, who has been surrounded by guys who suddenly start having career years when they're on the floor with him.

    Tony's an All-star, but not quite in the running for MVP.

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    The MVP award isn't necessarly about numbers...Its the value of the player to the team...take AI away from the sixers and they still suck, take Billups away from the Pistons and they are still awesome. I know that this is Tims team and that his importance to this team is far greater than any other player on the Spurs, but take away TP from the Spurs this season, and with Tim and Manu hurting this year the Spurs may not even be in the top 4 or 5 of the league....Im not supporting TP for MVP b.c I think that that honor goes to either Nash or Kobe, but I'm just saying just because another PG has better numbers doesn't mean he is an MVP
    I have to disagree with that.. I think if you take CB out of the mix, the Pistons become just a so-so team..

    I also think Chauncey will get MVP honors this year....

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    Actually, he doesn't. An argument can be made that in the last few years a team's success against the Spurs is directly linked to their ability to slow down Parker.
    For further evidence, remember what happened during the 2004 conference semifinals versus the Fakers. Parker is having a field day and looks unstoppable with his penetrations into the paint and kickout to the shooters. Spurs go up 2-0.

    Fakers shift their entire defense toward keeping Tony out of the paint, giving him hard fouls and closing out on shooters. Fakers win both games in L.A. and tie series 2-2. Spurs go back to S.A. and then endure the humiliation of the Derek Fisher shot during Game 5. Spurs lose series 4-2.

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    So yeah. Being an MVP candidate is not the same thing as winning the MVP.

    I was having this argument with spurs_fan_in_exile this weekend. I think Tony is an MVP candidate. Look at the career year he's having. For God's sake, this little point guard is top of hte league in points in the paint. He should be considered for an MVP award.

    Now that is not an automatic jump to winning the MVP award. I wouldn't vote for him to win it all, he doesn't meet all the criteria. But that doesn't mean his name shouldn't be cropping up more than it is.

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    TP is a solid allstar this season that's all

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    there's nothing wrong with putting his name up for consideration. it doesn't mean greg anthony thinks he is the mvp, he thinks he should be considred for it.

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    Why is everyone making a big deal about this? PJ Brown and Marcus Camby received votes last year...

    Is he top 5? No, but he is a legit top 10 candidate...

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    I think I speak for all spurs fans when I say...

    Greg Anthony =


    That's all

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    I think its enough that Tony has elevated his game to the point that he's basically a no-brainer all-star. His play has sustained the Spurs for parts of the first half of this season and allowed them to weather some mild storms.

    His game in Dallas in early December may end up making the difference between a 1 seed and a 4 seed.

    For all of that, he might be the Spurs' first-half MVP. If he continues to play at this level, he'll keep the Spurs in the le mix for the next 4-5 years. That's all good. I don't see him as an MVP candidate in any real sense, but I think we're seeing him blossom into a star-level player who must be accounted for every night. That, in the end, will help the Spurs, because it gives defenses 3 guys to deal contend with every night. In a playoff series (other than maybe the Pistons) teams are going to have a very difficult time taking away more than 1 of those 3 things, which greatly enhances the Spurs' chances to make a deep run at defending their le.

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    If you have to rely on Parker in the playoffs you are in trouble. He tends to disappear in the big games and Manu had to play extraordinary along with the defense to make up for that. Remember the lakers series.

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    I'll shave my balls if he even gets second in MVP voting.
    Don't knock it before you try it.

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    If you have to rely on Parker in the playoffs you are in trouble. He tends to disappear in the big games and Manu had to play extraordinary along with the defense to make up for that. Remember the lakers series.
    You're a ing idiot.

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    If you have to rely on Parker in the playoffs you are in trouble. He tends to disappear in the big games and Manu had to play extraordinary along with the defense to make up for that. Remember the lakers series.
    Thats the great thing, we dont have to rely on Parker with 3 main scorers in the starting line up. That is why we won the le last year Parker, Ginobili and Duncan. Three All-stars in my book.

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    If you have to rely on Parker in the playoffs you are in trouble. He tends to disappear in the big games and Manu had to play extraordinary along with the defense to make up for that. Remember the lakers series.
    Parker has two more rings than the Mavs do, so you might show a sense of perspective. I would say "remember the defense against Rip", but I'm sure you weren't watching that or the Lakers series.

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    dude parker is like 23
    he is playing better in the postseason then a guy named james
    james can not handle the pressure after the allstra break
    tp does quit well

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    tp does quit well
    CLASSIC.


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    look how many 23 year olds handle the playoff pressure as well as tp

    mcnabb for the eagles chokes every postseason


    tp gets a very bad rap by fans

    you guys are lucky he fell clear to number 28 in the draft

    those picks are suppose to be on the bench and be ing ROLE players

    I would say tp is much better then alot would like to admit

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    dude parker is like 23
    he is playing better in the postseason then a guy named james
    james can not handle the pressure after the allstra break
    tp does quit well
    ducks if you ever have my back, please don't defend me in writing.

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    If you have to rely on Parker in the playoffs you are in trouble. He tends to disappear in the big games and Manu had to play extraordinary along with the defense to make up for that. Remember the lakers series.
    Um do ever only rely on Tony Parker? He has teammates like Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili. Those 3 have all proved that we can rely on them so don't worry about us. We have three big time players.

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    If you have to rely on Parker in the playoffs you are in trouble. He tends to disappear in the big games and Manu had to play extraordinary along with the defense to make up for that. Remember the lakers series.
    a mavs fan talking about a spur player who disappears in big games. the irony is quite delicious.

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    a mavs fan talking about a spur player who disappears in big games. the irony is quite delicious.
    Parker almost caused the spurs to lose to the Pistons by himself. Billups owned Parker.

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    and mcgrady owned dirk, which almost let the mavs lose to the rockettes. parker was outplayed in a few games, but it isn't the best matchup for him. he didn't disappear totally, and didn't almost lose the series all by himself. you're really reaching here. and all this is besides the point - we have relied on tony for the last couple years and still won 2 rings. if he was that big a choke artist he would be like a mav, ringless. the laker series and the piston series are in the past, this thread is about ton'y play this year.

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    Parker almost caused the spurs to lose to the Pistons by himself. Billups owned Parker.
    tony make 16 pts last year with 48%
    this year 19.5 and 54.5%
    how can you say what can he do in the 2006 playoff?
    He's a young player who progress very year.
    you take exemple when he was 21, when a lot of player don't play in NBA.
    Maybe he can't penetrate but noone know the futur.
    Maybe his shoot will improved a lot (against Miami we can see it)

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    Forget about it
    The Spurs can play without TP but they still canīt play without tim Duncan... even when he is injured...
    His game improved a lot... but still isnīt an MVP candidate...

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