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LOL Really? Jack McCallum of SI included Tony in a list of MVP Candidates as well.
Did y'all watch Fastbreak??? Gregg Anthony asked if Tony should be given more (as if there were any to begin with) consideration for MVP honors...John Saunders and Tim Legler just scoffed.
Tony isn't up threre with Kobe and the likes of him, but if you think about it...With the health of Tim and Manu all year, what would the Spurs record be without TP playing the way he has this year....
LOL Really? Jack McCallum of SI included Tony in a list of MVP Candidates as well.
I'll shave my balls if he even gets second in MVP voting. I'm not ting on Tony, but no way he gets the respect he deserves.
If he does get MVP, all the San Antonio mexican cops will really be after his autograph.
Interesting. TP should get his props for his best season but my vote would go to Billups. Chauncey is a great floor general and he plays strong defense, too.
The Billups/Rasheed high screen play is the best in the business right now. Any time Detroit needs to gain separation on their opponents, their execution out of that has been death to all of their opponents...basically unguardable.
no way tp is mvp, there are other pgs in the league who are havin a career year. If tp gets mvp then thats bs, same with nash last season
Just goes to show you how thick some media parts are in terms of MVP voting.
This is the 2nd time I've heard a media member talk about Tony in regards to being in the MVP race, and that's just ridiculous.
I love the way he is playing and he is definatly and All-Star and I also think there is only 3 other PG's who can say they are better this season (Nash, Billups, AI), but MVP talk is just insane.
The MVP award isn't necessarly about numbers...Its the value of the player to the team...take AI away from the sixers and they still suck, take Billups away from the Pistons and they are still awesome. I know that this is Tims team and that his importance to this team is far greater than any other player on the Spurs, but take away TP from the Spurs this season, and with Tim and Manu hurting this year the Spurs may not even be in the top 4 or 5 of the league....Im not supporting TP for MVP b.c I think that that honor goes to either Nash or Kobe, but I'm just saying just because another PG has better numbers doesn't mean he is an MVP
Some good points. Regarding Billups, although the Pistons have the best starting 5 in basketball right now, I still believe that if Billups had to sit for several games, the Pistons would struggle against certain teams. He brings consistency to his team and he has an innate sense of when to pull out the dagger, and convert on it.
I didn't say anything about statistics. Also, your definition isn't neccasarily the correct one. It's not always given to a player who is the most important to his team. Take Jordan for exampl, he retired and the Bulls still reached Game 7 2nd round and won 55 games without him the next season. So he wasn't the most important player to his team in the league when he was winning MVP's, but he was the best player in the league. Different years, different meanings for an MVP.The MVP award isn't necessarly about numbers...Its the value of the player to the team...take AI away from the sixers and they still suck, take Billups away from the Pistons and they are still awesome. I know that this is Tims team and that his importance to this team is far greater than any other player on the Spurs, but take away TP from the Spurs this season, and with Tim and Manu hurting this year the Spurs may not even be in the top 4 or 5 of the league....Im not supporting TP for MVP b.c I think that that honor goes to either Nash or Kobe, but I'm just saying just because another PG has better numbers doesn't mean he is an MVP
MVP is either the best player in the league, most dominant in the league for that year or the most important player to his team's success. The winners usually alternate between being one of the above.
Tony isn't close to fitting the definition of any of the above.
Are you serious???
Anyway...I didn't know that the NBA was on a alternating schedule between the best, most dominating, and team importance...
I think I speak for all spurs fans when I say...
Greg Anthony =
I am a big fan of Tony.
But see TP as a MVP candidate is a joke. Maybe in a few years...
Yeah, I am serious, but I think you may have misunderstood me. He was the most important player ON his team, but not the most important player to his team. For example, the Spurs of that era would of probably won 35-40 games less if they didn't have David Robinson. When the Bulls lost Jordan, there win total only dropped by 10ish. You see my point now?Are you serious???
Anyway...I didn't know that the NBA was on a alternating schedule between the best, most dominating, and team importance...
I didn't say the NBA was on a schedule, I just said those are the different reasons the award is usually given to players. If it was given to "The Best Player in the League" every year, then Jordan would have won it in 89,90,91,92,93,96,97,98, He didn't. If they had always given it to the most important player in regards to his teams success like you suggested, then Drob would of had more than 1.
Players win the MVP for a reason, and it isn't always because his team would suck without them, like you said. So don't twist what I'm saying into something stupid.
Parker isn't even an allstar in my opinion. He rides Duncan's coatail to succeeding. Duncan did the same for Manu last year. The spurs success revolve around Duncan on both sides of the floor.
I love Tony and hate Kobe, but, being unbiased, I would have to say that , so far, Kobe is the MVP.
Rapist Kobe will get it..
Don't you know how it works yet?
I believe he has been the spurs mvp this season
Right.... I don't know about MVP, but Tony is an allstar no doubt. Only a Mav fan would say something like Tony is not an allstar and rides teh coat tail of Tim Duncan. How about giving our players some of thier own credit. Pretty soon we will have 3 all stars on our team.
People tend to forget that.
Tony is definitely MY MVP.
mav fan
why do coaches say their goal is to stop parker not duncan if tp is riding duncan's coattails?
Just paste this into your posts from now on to save time.
I really don't understand the Tony bashing. Or ones who underrate him. He has been awesome, and HE himself is having a career year and being consistant at it.
Isn't that what we've been asking of him?
Well, he's doing it, although I wish his assists would be at least 6.5 apg.
However, Tony may Not be the MVP of this league, but so far This season, Tony IS the MVP of the Spurs, and we have the 2nd best record in the NBA. Say what you want about Timmy, I love the guy and I know he's number one, and he should be. But Timmy, although averaging a double double, is NOT the guy being aggressive night in and night out like Tony. And that's a fact. Tony takes care of business even when Timmy's on the bench as well.
Now, every year, we hear about MVP candidates, and we always hear who the top 5 are. Now we all know that we always talk about who deserves consideration on the list.
That doesn't mean He is the MVP of the NBA, but you always hear, "Shaq should at least be on the list", or "so and so although not going to win it, should be on a top 5 list" and so on.
Why shouldn't Tony at least be mentioned on a list? Again, He's the MVP of the 2nd best team in basketball. Winning the award, maybe not, but talking about it is not out of bounds.
Tony's playing great and should be an all-star. I would also trade him for ZERO other PGs in this league.
That said, when a guy isn't even the most valuable player on his own team, he probably shouldn't get consideration for MVP. Tony is awesome, and he's having a great year, but he's not MVP in the NBA or on the Spurs.
tony has to win the finals mvp to shut the haters up
he was the leading one the first 3-4 games against the nets
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