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[scott]

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What, a 6 on the Wonderlick isn't good enough for you?

After Vince's amazing show of brillance, rumor is he may be looking to add at another agent at the least and possibly fire his uncle.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

NEW AGENT COMING FOR VINCE?



In the wake of Vince Young's incredibly low score of six on the Wonderlic test, league insiders are predicting that Young soon will fire agent Major Adams -- or, at a minimum, add another more experienced agent to the team.



Adams has very limited experience in the agent business, and none when it comes to managing a guy who's likely to go at the top of round one. As a result, Young wasn't ready for the intelligence test that every incoming NFL player takes.



"The experienced [agents] will jump all over that," said one league source. "The next chapter will be interesting."



Still, the source predicts that Young won't go lower than fifth overall in the draft, despite predictions by other league sources that Young could drop out of the first round. "Teams that are interested will interview him and bring him in to their facilities to spend as much time as they can with him," said the source. "They will find out that he is okay."



Back to the test, there definitely are ways that players can get themselves in position to get their highest scores. Incoming seniors take the test in conjunction with their pro day workout in order to establish a baseline number. Then, they take it again at the combine. We've heard rumors over the years that some agents have access to one or more versions of the test, and many league insiders attribute significant increases in scores from one year to the next to the aggressive efforts of the agent to get the guys ready to take the test.



And even if there's cheating involved, we've heard in the past from management-side sources that it's no big deal. If a guy can memorize multiple versions of the Wonderlic, they've explained, the player will have no trouble figuring out the playbook.



In Young's case, he has only taken it once. At the combine.



Pro Football Weekly has a comprehensive look at last year's Wonderlic scores, which includes a comparison between the combine score and the score generated in the prior year. Some of the low scores included a nine for receiver Chris Henry, a nine for defensive end Eric Moore, a nine for defensive tackle Mike Patterson, a nine for cornerback Lamont Reid, and an eight for cornerback Cedric Williams. The lowest quarterback score was Brock Berlin's 13.



But Berlin more than doubled up on Young.



So that gave us an idea. We printed out the 15 sample questions that we posted on Saturday, and we asked Florio Jr. (who is in the third grade and whose class has yet to delve into the multiplication tables) to sit down and give the thing a try. We gave him five minutes, which admittedly is a slightly greater questions-per-minute average than the NFL types get to answer 50.



Florio Jr. got five of them right.



Five out of 15 for a third-grader. Six out of 50 for a guy who attended multiple years of college, without failing out.



One reader suggested to us that Young's low score suggests that he might have a learning disability. That's fine, but how does a guy with such a disability remain academically eligible at a major ins ution like the University of Texas?



Stay tuned. This thing raises a ton of questions, and we have a feeling that it eventually will mushroom into a far bigger story than it already is (especially since, you know, we're the only ones talking about it).


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Vince must have stolen the authors lunch money as a kid...

Anyway, obviously there is no way Vince falls out of the top 5, let alone the first round... but seriously... a 6 on the Wonderlick?

[scott]

Found this list of Wonderlick scores on another website...

Name Year College Wonderlic
Smith, Alex 2005 Utah 40
Rodgers, Aaron 2005 California 39
Campbell, Jason 2005 Auburn 14,27,28
Frye, Charlie 2005 Akron 28, 38
Orton, Kyle 2005 Purdue 25, 27
Greene. David 2005 Georgia 19, 21
Fitzpatrick, Ryan2005 Harvard 37,38,50
Manning, Eli 2004 Mississippi 39
Krenzel, Craig 2004 Ohio State 38
Losman, J.P. 2004 Tulane 31, 14
Rivers, Philip 2004 NC State 30
Schaub, Matt 2004 Virginia 30 Roethlisberger, Ben 2004 Miami-OH 25
Henson, Drew 2003 Michigan 42
Romo, Tony 2003 Eastern Illinois 30
Grossman, Rex 2003 Florida 29
Boller, Kyle 2003 California 27
Palmer , Carson 2003 USC 26
Leftwich, Byron 2003 Marshall 25
Simms, Chris 2003 Texas 22
Harrington, Joey2002 Oregon 32
Ramsey, Patrick 2002 Tulane 32
Carr, David 2002 Fresno State 24
Carter, Quincy 2001 Georgia 30
Brees, Drew 2001 Purdue 28
Vick, Michael 2001 Virginia Tech 20
Brady, Tom 2000 Michigan 33
Pennington, Chad2000 Marshall 25
Culpepper, Daunte1999 Central Florida 18, 21, 15
Brooks, Aaron 1999 Virginia 17
McNabb, Donovan 1999 Syracuse 16, 12
Davenport, Oscar1999 North Carolina 6
Griese, Brian 1998 Michigan 39
Hasselbeck, Matt1998 Boston College 29
Collins, Kerry 995 Penn State 30
McNair, Steve 1995 Alcorn State 15
Stewart, Kordell1995 Colorado 12
Dilfer, Trent 1994 resno State 22
Shuler, Heath 1994 Tennessee 16
Bledsoe, Drew 1993 Wash. State 37
Mirer, Rick 1993 Notre Dame 31
Brunell, Mark 1993 Washington 22
Grbac, Elvis 1993 Michigan 16
Klingler, David 1992 Houston 30
Blake, Jeff 1992 East Carolina 17
Favre, Brett 1991 Southern Miss. 22
O'Donnell, Neil 1990 Maryland 13
George, Jeff 1990 Illinois 10
Aikman, Troy 1989 UCLA 29
Gannon, Rich 1987 Delaware 27
Testaverde, Vinny1987 Miami 18
Cunningham, Randall1985 UNLV 15
Marino, Dan 1983 Pittsburgh 14
Young, Steve 1982 BYU 33

Marino got a 14, Quincy Carter got a 30... obviously the Wonderlick is not that great of a predictor of NFL success.

[Sii]

UT bashers are funny. I heard Vince actually scored a 16. on ESPN radio about an hour ago they said per a NFL official - the report of a score of 6 was FALSE. profootballtalk.com is a site. Less cred than hoopsworld if that possible. They even admit they throw out there sometimes

[ShoogarBear]

Interesting that J.P. Losman went down from 31 to 14.

[Peter]

While the Wonderlic expose/controversy/whatever might create a few laughs at Young's expense, the real issue for him is getting quality representation. In the NFL agents are worth their commissions. The last thing Young needs is to end up with a Master P-esque rookie deal.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

hahaha, peter is right

ing ricky

if vince young gets shafted, then hopefully he'll get shafted as a Texan..



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