Pop? Is that you?
Thanks guys. Some of those FIBA articles have been posted/linked here in previous discussons. I'm fairly familiar with zone defenses. I also know a matchup zone when I see one and the Spurs have been using a matchup zone with more frequency this year whenever they decide to use a zone. The hybrid defense you were describing didn't look like anything I'd heard of or seen before. I still haven't.
Oberto really is an above average defender but he can't guard Dirk.
Well, it's the way Argentina defended Dirk back in 2002. It's a constant switch between Box-And-One, Triangle-And-Two, 2-3 Zone, and Man-To-Man to disrupt the offense rhythm.
Usually Box-And-One is used to defend a team that has one strong scoring option, which was the case of Germany. This defense is better to mark Guards (it was used on Iverson when he played in College), but with some modifications and smart players, it can be used on a big man who has Dirk's shooting range.
When in Box-And-One, Triangle-And-Two and Man-To-Man, Wolkowisky was man-marking Dirk. Pepe Sanchez was the other player man-marking, (to the German point guard) when playing Triangle-And-Two, but Germany lacked a third perimetral shooter scoring option, something that Dallas has. That lack of a third scoring option allowed the other 3 players to play a zone covering the paint (and they were 3 very good defenders and rebounders for FIBA standards: Manu, Nocioni and Oberto).
In Man-To-Man, if Nowitzky was matched-up with a smaller defender after a screen, Wolkowisky would still follow Dirk even if that meant double-teaming him in the perimeter, leaving a German player open for a shoot or a penetration (if Dirk could pass off the double team). But just for a second because the defense would help and rotate, leaving the Germans with the only option of a risky skip pass to the weak side.
2-3 Zone was used briefly when Nowitzky was posting-up, with Nocioni or Oberto helping Wolkowisky on the weak side, or Manu going for the steal if Dirk was trying to back down. Again, the lack of shooting options prevented the kick out.
If you understood anything of what I just finished typing, I congratulate you, because I don't know if it made any sense! Do you speak Spanish?
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Switching From 2-3 Zone To Man-To-Man Defense
Attacking the Unorthodox Zone
The Triangle-And-Two Defense
Dirk is one of the best players in the world, no way oberto even slows him down..If oberto was to defend him, he would have 3 fouls by the end of the 1st quarter!!
I understand what you are saying and I can normally recognize the various defenses being employed in-game, especially if the team runs them correctly. I was asking you to see if you had thought it through on the screen/roll defense. It sounded like, in your first description of a hybrid zone, like you were describing changing defenses mid possesion, depending where Dirk was on the floor at any particular moment. That's just not practical so let's move on.Well, it's the way Argentina defended Dirk back in 2002. It's a constant switch between Box-And-One, Triangle-And-Two, 2-3 Zone, and Man-To-Man to disrupt the offense rhythm.
Usually Box-And-One is used to defend a team that has one strong scoring option, which was the case of Germany. This defense is better to mark Guards (it was used on Iverson when he played in College), but with some modifications and smart players, it can be used on a big man who has Dirk's shooting range.
When in Box-And-One, Triangle-And-Two and Man-To-Man, Wolkowisky was man-marking Dirk. Pepe Sanchez was the other player man-marking, (to the German point guard) when playing Triangle-And-Two, but Germany lacked a third perimetral shooter scoring option, something that Dallas has. That lack of a third scoring option allowed the other 3 players to play a zone covering the paint (and they were 3 very good defenders and rebounders for FIBA standards: Manu, Nocioni and Oberto).
In Man-To-Man, if Nowitzky was matched-up with a smaller defender after a screen, Wolkowisky would still follow Dirk even if that meant double-teaming him in the perimeter, leaving a German player open for a shoot or a penetration (if Dirk could pass off the double team). But just for a second because the defense would help and rotate, leaving the Germans with the only option of a risky skip pass to the weak side.
2-3 Zone was used briefly when Nowitzky was posting-up, with Nocioni or Oberto helping Wolkowisky on the weak side, or Manu going for the steal if Dirk was trying to back down. Again, the lack of shooting options prevented the kick out.
If you understood anything of what I just finished typing, I congratulate you, because I don't know if it made any sense! Do you speak Spanish?
More related articles:
Switching From 2-3 Zone To Man-To-Man Defense
Attacking the Unorthodox Zone
The Triangle-And-Two Defense
Your second post discussing how Argentina changed their looks throughout the game made more sense, although not necessarily workable in the NBA.
Let's face it. Defenses like the Triangle and 2 or other combination zones are really junk defenses that are most effective in the NBA coming out of stopages, in small bursts using the surprise factor. Minnesota used to run the Triangle and 2, or that's what it looked like, mixed in with a 2-3 against the Spurs and Tony Parker could beat those tactics by being aggressive. Otherwise, the Spurs would end up being lazy and hoist up something like 25 3-pt. attempts.
I'll take your word for it on the Indy stategies by Magnano. All those looks take much more practice time to master than the NBA pros have time for.
I ain't even worried about it. Dirk.
Good strategy.
Gracias.
How about put Parker on Dirk.
You must not have seen many previous Spurs-Mavs games.
Nice Choice, but not Tony guarding Dirk
If Tony, TD or Manu can score the same points fo Dirk the game is Over
If Dirk scores 30 and Tony too, we win, and the same thing with the others
I'm telling you guys...Manu has this game in the bag. I see flashbacks to last seasons performances.
Book it.
can dirk stop sean marks, that is the x factor
I don't see how the mavs can stop Marks.
Dirk 23 and Tony 23, and we won
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