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    I know Oberto could guard Dirk better than anyone else on our team. But, Pop would have to play him some serious minutes, so it prolly won't happen. Still, I'd love to see it.

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    Oberto? What the ?

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    No way that Oberto would be better at guarding Nowitzki than Bowen or Duncan.

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    Seriously, what the are you thinking??

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    Duncan will guard Dirk more than likely but an interesting matchup nonetheless. I'm interested to see how it pans out if it pans out at all considering Dirk will probably be resting if Duncan is on the bench.

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    Oberto on Dirk = 50-point game

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    Oberto was surprisingly good defending Pau Gasol. He actually defended him better than did Timmy or the other bigs.

    Dirk is a different story because Dirk can take guys out on the floor so much more. In the post, Oberto would be okay. Nowitzki likes fadeaways the closer he gets to the basket, though.

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    we gonna have to settle for Parker on Nowitski....(chess games) and Manu on Dampier and ;-)

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    we gonna have to settle for Parker on Nowitski....(chess games) and Manu on Dampier and ;-)
    maybe if nellie was our head coach. i think he tried nash on shaq.

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    When Argentina played Germany twice in 2002 Oberto didn't guard Dirk, it was Wolkowisky, who is a defensive specialist (and by the way he did a great job on him). Oberto guarded Femerling, a 7'1'' center.

    (My sig might suggest otherwise, but he wasn't guarding most of the game).

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    Wow, Oberto is owning Kiwi.

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    No way that Oberto would be better at guarding Nowitzki than Bowen or Duncan.
    Probably Duncan is too much better defender than Fabri, but Fabricio have 6 foul to give, and he can Fouled our without a problem

    If TD guard Dirk and take some fouls, it can be a big problem

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    When Argentina played Germany twice in 2002 Oberto didn't guard Dirk, it was Wolkowisky, who is a defensive specialist (and by the way he did a great job on him). Oberto guarded Femerling, a 7'1'' center.

    (My sig might suggest otherwise, but he wasn't guarding most of the game).
    By the way Nowitzki went 0-13 on 3pt.

    Gus

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    Expect Bruce to mirror Dirk, just like the last meeting in Dallas. Dirk struggled the whole game.

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    The way Dallas likes to handle whoever defends Dirk one-on-one is to pair Dirk with a playmaker and run side or high screen/rolls. If Parker is defending the playmaker and the Spurs are forced to switch off the screen, that leaves TP on Dirk. Dirk has all the space he needs with that matchup to get his shot off.

    In the 2nd game vs. the Mavs, the Spurs handled that strategy better with some extra doubling on the ball and not switching, as I remember,...but in the 1st game, Devin Harris and Dirk killed the Spurs.

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    Force Harris or Terry out of the paint to kick the ball out, but don't leave Stack in the corner and Tony must not let Terry get those wide open threes. If we don't allow second shots, we'll be fine.

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    Provided the Spurs don't switch the screens without help, G-Nob, your strategy might be effective.

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    Or put Bowen on the ballhandler. If you switch, you have Bruce on Dirk, and even with the size difference Bruce can perfectly disrupt his shot.

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    Watching the Mavs up close every game, they struggle when their passes aren't fluid. Any interruption in their offensive flow then becomes a grind to which the spurs have the advantage. When they don't hit their shots, they try to penetrate the zone for a few easy ten footers. Howard is their go-to guy when this happens. Also, Dirk has been flying to the rim a lot more this year. As long as Nazr and Tim are jamming, that could also force Dirk to kick out.

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    Or put Bowen on the ballhandler. If you switch, you have Bruce on Dirk, and even with the size difference Bruce can perfectly disrupt his shot.
    Okay, now who is the other Spur defending Dirk if Bowen is on the ballhandler? Only inquiring as to the specifics...that's all.

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    Okay, now who is the other Spur defending Dirk if Bowen is on the ballhandler? Only inquiring as to the specifics...that's all.
    Yeah, that wouldn't give Dallas a reason to screen if there is already a mismatch.

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    This may sound as sacrilege to some...but man in zone!

    If Dirk is in the low post, put Rasho on him. (Switch to Bruce if he goes to the permeter to set a screen).

    If he is in the high post, put TD. (Switch to Bruce if he moves out for a screen)

    If he is in the perimeter, Bruce. (Here is where it gets complicated in case of a screen without the ball, e.g. Howard/Terry set a screen on Bruce without the ball, the ball handler passes to Dirk, who is matched-up with Manu or Tony). The solution here would be Manu or Tony not switching and Bruce moving behind the screen (as he usally does).

    Also, be extra careful when they fake the pick-and-roll, and it becomes a pick-and-pop.

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    If Dirk is in the low post, put Rasho on him. (Switch to Bruce if he goes to the permeter to set a screen).

    If he is in the high post, put TD. (Switch to Bruce if he moves out for a screen)

    If he is in the perimeter, Bruce. (Here is where it gets complicated in case of a screen without the ball, e.g. Howard/Terry set a screen on Bruce without the ball, the ball handler passes to Dirk, who is matched-up with Manu or Tony). The solution here would be Manu or Tony not switching and Bruce moving behind the screen (as he usally does).

    Also, be extra careful when they fake the pick-and-roll, and it becomes a pick-and-pop.

    I'm not sure I've heard of that exact defense.

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    I'm not sure I've heard of that exact defense.
    Basically, it's man-to-man depending on the zone where the opposition best player is, and rotations. The objetive is to try to have your players placed where they play the best defense, rather than making them chase players all over the court. It's very important that the players have good basketball IQ to recognize what kind of play the opposition is running. In the NBA it's not common because of the limitations on zone defense and because coaches rely more on direct man-to-man half court defense.

    Some stuff that may be of interest to you:

    Pick and roll Defense

    Defense against picks of players without the ball

    Defending the Pick and roll

    Zone Defense 1

    Zone Defense 2

    How to buld a 2-3 Zone Defense

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