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    Well considering the rest of the spurs don't usually play that well. (Horry, Finley, and Mohammad) You can't underestimate a missing role player like Harris who has some of the same skills as Parker.
    Dude, you truly are pathetic. PENDEJO.

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    It's starting to look like the mavs have lost their edge on the road. Dirk couldn't score on anyone except Manu and Parker. If you think the mavs played even close to the level they can play than you haven't watched many mavs games. The mavs are not afraid of the spurs and this bull .

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    I disagree on the spurs having a a higher ceiling as in the mavs didn't play like they usually do. They usually play better defense and they usually move the ball more. Devin Harris is the key to the mavs bench. He usually helps in both categories over what Terry does. Usually aggresive defenders get away with more since they are moving their feet as well. No surprise there that Dirk doesn't get many calls since Bowen is hustling and beating Dirk to spots.
    the thing is:
    the mavs dont usually play the Spurs
    most of the rest of the teams in the NBA usually dont play defense the way the Spurs play it

    the Spurs took dallas out of there comfort zone, cause thats what the Spurs do when they are focused.
    That's why they have 3 championships

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    It's starting to look like the mavs have lost their edge on the road. Dirk couldn't score on anyone except Manu and Parker. If you think the mavs played even close to the level they can play than you haven't watched many mavs games. The mavs are not afraid of the spurs and this bull .
    This has nothing to do with the "Mavs being afraid of the Spurs." This has to do with the fact that you're main excuse after the loss last night has been that the Mavs didn't play close to the level they've played the rest of the season. News Flash: The reason they didn't play their best was because of a little something called Spurs defense. Yes, Mavs defense has improved, but as evidenced by last night, it's nowhere near where the Spurs defense is. Also, if you're going to argue that the Mavs didn't play their best level of basketball and that they were missing Devin Harris (), then you also need to consider the flip side in that Duncan and Manu both sucked last night also and didn't play their best basketball...yet the Spurs still managed to win.

    Wait till the second round of the playoffs, then the Mavs should truly be afraid of the Spurs.

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    Well the mavs usually play better defense and they get stagnant without a point guard like Harris.

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    bottom line is Spurs played playoff-level defense and Mavs were shocked, scared and confused.

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    I live in Fort Worth, vato. I watch my fair share of Mavs games on UPN 21 and Fox Sports SW (know your enemy). Your problem is that you expect Dallas to stomp on the Spurs like they do to sub-par teams and when that doesn't happen you come up with one excuse after another. STFU already.

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    haha

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    The Mavs won't get to the second round this year. They have no for ude whatsoever.

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    The Mavs won't get to the second round this year. They have no for ude whatsoever.
    I disagree. I think they'll make it to the second round. They will learn from this and get better, but I don't think they will win a series against the silver and black.

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    I live in Fort Worth, vato. I watch my fair share of Mavs games on UPN 21 and Fox Sports SW (know your enemy). Your problem is that you expect Dallas to stomp on the Spurs like they do to sub-par teams and when that doesn't happen you come up with one excuse after another. STFU already.
    So you think you know that you watch a little of the mavs? You are ing blind with the silver and black so I think you will just look at their shortcomings rather than what they do well.

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    So you think you know that you watch a little of the mavs? You are ing blind with the silver and black so I think you will just look at their shortcomings rather than what they do well.
    What do they do well? They rebound, block shots and score. Then they print up a spreadsheet and mail it to the media explaining how their team defense is statistically one of the best in the league. You and the Mavs have been talking about how great the defense is. I didn't see it. If all this preparation wasn't for last night's game, then what was it for? The Spurs came out playing like dog , and used their defense to keep them in the game until they started hitting shots. That, my friend, is real defense.

    As Eric Kasilias said when Woody Page commented on the Mavericks' defensive improvement under AJ: "How could it not?"

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    I really hope Manu and TD can raise up their games, if they do Spurs would basically be winning by 50 points a game.

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    Anybody here know exactly how many minutes Bruce was guarding Dirk.
    Cuz overall, a 23point game ain't really gettin shutdown.

    People have broken down though the amount scored on bowen which i think was 12. That's good, but it really depends on how many minutes bowen was on him.

    Like if it was 15min and he got 12, then it ain't really a shutdown now is it.

    Anybody care to inform me???

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    I really hope Manu and TD can raise up their games, if they do Spurs would basically be winning by 50 points a game.
    That is the Mavs best hope, make that only hope, of beating the Spurs, that Manu and Duncan don't return to form. Even with half a Manu and a quarter of A Duncan the best the Mavs can say is that they were close until nut cutting time. But oh yeah, if they only had Devein Harris ....

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    Anybody here know exactly how many minutes Bruce was guarding Dirk.
    Cuz overall, a 23point game ain't really gettin shutdown.

    People have broken down though the amount scored on bowen which i think was 12. That's good, but it really depends on how many minutes bowen was on him.

    Like if it was 15min and he got 12, then it ain't really a shutdown now is it.

    Anybody care to inform me???
    Did you watch the game? Dirk had six points in the first half. He had probably 16 until the point where the Mavs were down by double digits with a couple of minutes to go. I can think of at least 10 points he scored where Parker and Ginobili were covering him right off the top of my head, so if Bruce defended Dirk into 13 points during the portion of the game that mattered then I call that getting shut down.

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    That is the Mavs best hope, make that only hope, of beating the Spurs, that Manu and Duncan don't return to form. Even with half a Manu and a quarter of A Duncan the best the Mavs can say is that they were close until nut cutting time. But oh yeah, if they only had Devein Harris ....
    That's a little misleading too. The Spurs basically spotted the Mavericks 12 points. The game wasn't as close as the final score would indicate.

    If the Mavericks would have won the game with Devin Harris, imagine how bad the Spurs would have beaten the Mavs if Beno Udrih had played.

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    I broke down the minutes and of the 37 minutes Dirk was on the floor Bowen was on with him and almost always covering Dirk for 27:56. Dirk scored 19 poins during that time 3 of which were on a bogus foul call on Parker where Dirk did a half ass Reggie Miller leg kick on a three that some dumb ref fell for. Bowen held Dirk to 6 - 13 shooting. If thats the best Dirk can do Mavs are pretty well screwed come playoff time. Either Spurs and Bowen or Suns and Marion, whoever they meet first, will be sending Dirk and The Benefactor home crying again.

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    That's a little misleading too. The Spurs basically spotted the Mavericks 12 points. The game wasn't as close as the final score would indicate.

    If the Mavericks would have won the game with Devin Harris, imagine how bad the Spurs would have beaten the Mavs if Beno Udrih had played.
    at Beno Udrih. He sucks just like Van Exel. They both are turnover machines and slow. As for Devin Harris he plays the same style as Tony Parker. The spurs defensive system wouldn't be able to handle the speed of Harris. Also Josh Howard straining his hamstring slowed him down as well. Manu got shut down by Griffin (baby Bowen) and Diop shut down Duncan.

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    The spurs defensive system wouldn't be able to handle the speed of Harris.
    I'd love to hear how that's true. When last we saw Harris, he was 3-10 for a grandiose 7 points. The Spurs REALLY struggled to handle his speed that night.

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    I broke down the minutes and of the 37 minutes Dirk was on the floor Bowen was on with him and almost always covering Dirk for 27:56. Dirk scored 19 poins during that time 3 of which were on a bogus foul call on Parker where Dirk did a half ass Reggie Miller leg kick on a three that some dumb ref fell for. Bowen held Dirk to 6 - 13 shooting. If thats the best Dirk can do Mavs are pretty well screwed come playoff time. Either Spurs and Bowen or Suns and Marion, whoever they meet first, will be sending Dirk and The Benefactor home crying again.

    Aight, so he did a good job. Still not what it was made out to be , but a good defensive performance nonetheless.


    And no Obstructed view, i did not watch the game because i wasnt able to.
    I live in toronto, and dont have tnt. Thanks for asking though

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    So you think you know that you watch a little of the mavs? You are ing blind with the silver and black so I think you will just look at their shortcomings rather than what they do well.
    Here you go again you dumb . I never did such a thing. If I ever said anything about your favorite team you moron, it was never about their shortcomings. In fact, correct me if I am wrong, I don't think I ever disrespected the Mavs on this forum. And I gave kudos to those Dallas fans that have class. They belong on this forum because they bring something here that you obviously don't have, INTELLIGANCE. Your the one that's blind.

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    I live in Fort Worth, vato. I watch my fair share of Mavs games on UPN 21 and Fox Sports SW (know your enemy). Your problem is that you expect Dallas to stomp on the Spurs like they do to sub-par teams and when that doesn't happen you come up with one excuse after another. STFU already.
    Well I got from this post is since you watch some mavs games you assume they beat sorry teams only but once they play the spurs they will automatically lose. Generalizing statements like that piss me off. The spurs were better than the mavs yesterday but that doesn't mean the spurs are the better team. In a playoff series one team has to lose 4 times so it will be obvious by than who the better team is but in 1 game it isn't.

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    Well I got from this post is since you watch some mavs games you assume they beat sorry teams only but once they play the spurs they will automatically lose. Generalizing statements like that piss me off. The spurs were better than the mavs yesterday but that doesn't mean the spurs are the better team. In a playoff series one team has to lose 4 times so it will be obvious by than who the better team is but in 1 game it isn't.
    You don't get it. So I'm not even going to waste my time. You truly can't be this stupid, man. I'm on to your act!

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    at Beno Udrih. He sucks just like Van Exel. They both are turnover machines and slow. As for Devin Harris he plays the same style as Tony Parker. The spurs defensive system wouldn't be able to handle the speed of Harris. Also Josh Howard straining his hamstring slowed him down as well. Manu got shut down by Griffin (baby Bowen) and Diop shut down Duncan.
    Just when I think you can't get any stupider.

    Among your litany of excuses, you mention that the game would have been completely different if the backup point guard had played. Moronic.

    By the way "shutting down" Duncan and Manu doesn't mean much when Nazr and Finley kick the out of you for the whole game and Duncan puts the dagger in your throat in the fourth.

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