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I'm sure it's been mentioned in here, but I don't see how the Pistons would need another guy shooting threes. Flip has restored his reputation as a coach, and should probably leave well enough alone.
I'm not saying they can't shoot. I'm saying they're not pure shooters.
Except for Billups, he can stop on a dime and nail a three with the best of them. Rip comes off screen's to shoot more often than just standing in a corner to stretch the defense. With Hoiberg you don't need to call plays for him, just stick him out there, he will demand a defender stick to him.
As for Hunter, if you're on a team long enough you'll be the team leader in 3-point field goals. He's a great on-the-ball defender. Spot up shooter he is not. He's like there Bruce Bowen. But Bowen and Kerr are nothing alike.
Last edited by Please_dont_ban_me; 03-09-2006 at 05:07 PM.
I'm sure it's been mentioned in here, but I don't see how the Pistons would need another guy shooting threes. Flip has restored his reputation as a coach, and should probably leave well enough alone.
The "if it ain't broke don't fix it" policy doesn't always work.
The great teams have always made little changes. The Lakers did it, the Spurs did it. The Bulls did it. Just because you're good, does not mean you can't get better. , if you don't keep trying to get better...you will by default at best stay the same, if not get worse.
I don't see any downside to picking up Hoiberg. Worstcase, he rides the bench. So what?
Why don't the Pistons just sign every player available at different points for the rest of the season?
Way to take it to an extreme.
This isn't every player. This is one player. It will make them a better team. At worst, he won't work out and he'll be the 12th man, or sit on the IR the rest of the season. It's not like you have to lose anything to get him.
In this case it does.The "if it ain't broke don't fix it" policy doesn't always work.
Great analysis.
Last years 3pt fg% for Hoiberg was a gaudy .483 making 70-149. He was .489 from the field and .873 from the line.
I think we might be able to fit a shooter like that on to the roster. Joe will do what's best for the team.
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/fred_hoiberg/
We?
Joe?
So I guess the idea is, if the 3 isn't falling for Sheed or Chauncey.....have somebody ELSE start jacking up 3s?
Or is this supposed to give Flip ammo to tell Sheed "HEY! We GOT somebody at the arc; YOU get your ass down on the BLOCK! NOW!" and make it stick?
I'm sure it's not a secret that the Pistons aren't winning in the playoffs with Rasheed standing 25 feet from the basket, but someone should tell him instead of just crowding the perimiter in the hopes he gets the message.
Agreed. That's not exactly great team communication.
Someone should tell posters to stop speculating on the purpose behind trades.
What are you, the thought police?
Flip doesn't need his security blanket from Minny. Carlos Delfino is obviously more talented and a better player, but Flip knows Hoiberg, so he will take his minutes. It's already happening to a lesser degree with Mo Evans. Carlos consistantly outplays him in games, but Flip knows Evans from his rookie year with the Wolves, so Evans continues to play more minutes. It happens with every coach. Larry Brown had Darvin Ham. Carlisle had Michael Curry. I like Hoiberg, but not at the expense of having Carlos Delfino go all Darko on us and get buried on the end of the bench.
Now if Hoiberg was taking Mo Evans' minutes, then I'd consider it, but it's stupid to have 7 bench players all playing small minutes each. I'd rather give 3 bench players big minutes. If it were up to me, I'd give Delk or Hunter (probably Delk once he learns the system) 20 minutes, Delfino 25 minutes, Dice 25 minutes, and the rest get scraps.
Last edited by FreshPrince22; 03-10-2006 at 07:13 PM.
No.
But if you're going to assume what people are thinking, than I have a right to voice my thoughts on your assumptions. Or do just you have the right to voice your opinion?
Wasn't Evans a rookie for the Kings, not the Wolves?
Delfino is a nice player. But he has alot of potential. You know exactly what you're getting with Hoiberg. Minus the 'he might croak at any minute' factor.
The Kings were Evans 2nd or 3rd NBA team.
Just my opinion. I plan to rule the entire Spurstalk universe, one day, the entire internet!
(I hope you didn't take offense to a small - very small - joke at your expense)
He was a rookie in the 2001-02 season with the Minnesota Timberwolves, playing in ten games. He then went overseas where he was the number one option for Dynamo Moscow. He returned to the NBA with the Kings in November of 2004 where he had his breakout season 6.4 ppg, 3.1 rpg, .57 steals in 65 games (11 starts - 10.3 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 1.3 apg in 33.9 minutes).
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