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ugghhh..... We don't need more 3 point shooters.
Hoiberg to Detroit?
Not sure what will come of this, but Timberwolves special assistant Fred Hoiberg is on his way to Detroit to meet with Joe Dumars and Flip Saunders to talk about joining the Pistons roster.
Hoiberg, a 6'4 shooting guard, spent the last two seasons playing for Saunders in Minnesota before undergoing open heart surgery to correct an aneurysm in his aortic root this past summer, and has not played this season while in recovery.
If he does return to the court, he will become the first man to play in the NBA with a pacemaker.
I'm going to meet with Flip and [Pistons president] Joe Dumars," Hoiberg said. "Nothing's for sure. I want to find out if it's a situation that would make sense."
One hurdle is that the Pistons are already carrying the league max of 15 players on their roster, including Amir Johnson and Alex Acker, rookies who are currently playing with the team's NBDL affiliate in Fayetteville, NC.
Another hurdle is that Hoiberg still hasn't decided if it makes sense, health-wise, to pursue playing this year, next year, or to call it a career.
Kelvin Cato, who hasn't played since being acquired from Orlando in the Darko Milicic trade in February, would be the most likely candidate to be waived should the Pistons decide to bring Hoiberg on. The Pistons have no plans to keep Cato past this season.
Hoiberg, in stints with Indiana, Chicago and Minnesota, has averaged 5.4 PPG, 2.7 RPG and 1.6 APG, mostly as a reserve.
http://www.mlive.com/weblogs/beyondt...03.html#118832
Interesting.
ugghhh..... We don't need more 3 point shooters.
I think its an interesting idea, but frankly it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
If it was the Hoiberg of a couple of years ago, he'd be a solid pickup. Good range, scrappy, willing to play D.
Where is there space on this roster? The Pistons have made as many short-term pickups as they can this season with Cato replacing Milicic, and Delk replacing Arroyo. They cut either Johnson or Acker, I think it may harm the longterm future of this frachise. Cato will be helpful, even if it's just as 6 fouls in a game the Pistons run into some foul trouble (it happened last season).
They would probably consider cutting Cato if it looks like he won't be able to play. It's not like he'll be in any kind of shape if he does get healthy in time for the playoffs. If the bigs get in trouble this year, we have Dale Davis. I would put him on Duncan in game 7 before Elden or Cato (or Tayshaun)
Unless Flip wants a new towel boy....why?
Isn't he dead?
This won't happen. Doesn't make any sense, and Cato's six fouls are more valuable than another shooter, especially one who could drop dead on the floor at any time. No thanks.
Good move.
Great shooter, underrated defender. He can be there Steve Kerr.
I don't think I like the idea this season. I'd rather have a guy on our roster who will only play for 6 fouls in a Miami Series on Shaq (Cato) than a guy who could literally kick the bucket at any time.
Maybe in the off-season, but I'm skeptical right now. We dont need anymore outside shooters or pretty soon we're gonna be taking 35 three pointers a game.
Other than Billups, who is a "outside shooter" on that team?
Everyone basically...at least in principle. Well, except Ben Wallace. He is not really an "inside shooter" either.
So they are having a heart to heart?
Rip is shooting a high percentage but hes not really an outside shooter. Sheed is definitely an outside shooter, actually this season i think much too so. Tayshaun can hit threes but thats not his expertise. So in other words, Chauncey and Sheed are the outside threats.
Rasheed Wallace: .367 (125-341).
Chauncey Billups: .428 (133-311).
Tayshaun Prince: .349 (52-149).
Rip Hamilton: .449 (40-89)
Maurice Evans: .379 (33-87 off bench).
Carlos Delfino: .333 (15-45 off bench).
Tony Delk (Career): .340 (453-1,331).
Lindsey Hunter: Ranks 31st all-time in made 3-point field goals (1,004-2,746).
the Pistons do not need to get another outside shooter! they need someone to play in the post!
Not known as an outside threat until this year, he worked hard on the 3-pointer in the off season and it's paid off.
3pt fg% over the last 3 years for Rip
03-04 .265 on 18-68
04-05 .305 on 36-118
05-06 .449 on 40-89
He's been especially accurate from the corners.
Tony Delk? The Pistons traded for him?
Anywho...none of those players are "shooters". Having a high 3-point shooting percentage does not make you a "shooter". Hoiberg is a pure shooter who makes the defender stick to him.
Most the people on the Pistons right now are more of a slasher type. Like Evans, like Tayshaun. Delfino fits the same mold. Lindsay Hunter is a great defender, but he's not exactly dangerous from behind the arc.
Delfino is the only real slasher this team has.
You can't call Prince a "shooter" though.
Shooters are Steve Kerr. Reggie Miller. Jeff Hornacek. Sean Elliot even.
None of the players on that team really fit that mold. Hoiberg would fit in nicely.
The Pistons are a jump shooting team. There are no "Pure shooters" except for Hamilton, as you are talking about, but the team does have shooters.
Hamilton's a starter.
You're telling me that bench couldn't use a shooter like Hoiberg?
Apparently, you haven't seen the video of Tayshaun as he nailed 7 straight three-point shots with Kentucky.
Tayshaun is deadly from the corners. He spots up three-pointers the same way a Hornacek and Elliott did. As a matter of fact, I like that comparison all the way around - Sean Elliott.
The Pistons traded Carlos Arroyo and Darko Milicic for Kelvin Cato and a 2007 1st round pick. This opened up a roster spot. A week or so ago, the Atlanta Hawks bought Delk out of his contract after playing only one game this season, and the Pistons claimed him off waivers.
Hunter has been under .300 from downtown for the last three seasons, however:
Pistons All-Time Career Leaders:
Three Point Field Goals
1. Joe Dumars - 990
2. Lindsey Hunter - 740
3. Chauncey Billups - 577
4. Terry Mills - 495
5. Jerry Stackhouse - 401.
In 1999-00, Hunter was 7th in the league in three-point percentage (168-389, .432).
If this isn't about three-point scoring, how about Rip Hamilton - one of two guards to be averaging over .500 from the field? Chauncey Billups is more likely to drive to the hole and draw contact, but he's a great spot shooter, and great off the dribble. Rasheed Wallace has one of the longest ranges for anyone at his position. Before games, he has shooting contests FROM THE HASH MARK!
Nobody is a pretty shooter, and if that is what you are looking for, poetry is not what they have. Tayshaun Prince's elbow is never tucked it, Mo Evans has a quicker "Grandma-like" release on his shot than Jon Barry. This team is full of shooters.
If you are looking for a pure shooter (what Hoiberg is), then there's not any of that, either. Tayshaun catches lobs in transition, Chauncey draws contact at the rim to go to the line, Rasheed Wallace plays on the block. But don't confuse those added dimensions with not being able to shoot.
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