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Nasho Mohammovic
The point behind that lineup was that if people want defense and rebounding you're gonna have to play both of them. The Spurs have won all season with both of them starting, so it seems to me that they're strengths and weaknesses balance out. Rasho doesn't hit the boards, but he hits his spots on defense. Nazr chases down the rebounds but can't guard the paint. If they can put one's brain in the other's body we'd be good to go.
Nasho Mohammovic
There is no question that Rasho understands the Spurs' defensive system better than Nazr. There is still a measureable difference in allowed FG% between the two and actually a negligible difference in defensive rebounding (maybe a slight surprise, but positioning and tipping may have something to do with it).
That said, the difference is much less than it was last season. Part of it could well be Nazr's getting used to the system and players and vice versa. Another factor would be that Duncan's reduced mobility exacerbates Rasho's sloth and lack of athleticism. It's very difficult to run two slow frontcourt players in this league, especially when one of those players doesn't bring much else to the table outside of good picks.
Anyway Duncan's injury affects him on both sides of the floor, and Nazr helps tremendously on the offensive side with his offensive boarding and agressiveness going to the basket.
I agree with Kori in that I liked having Rasho start because it established alot of stability. Defensive rotations were generally more solid and frustrating to our opponents and the offense seemed to find a rhythm more quickly with Rasho setting pick after pick for Tony. I understand why Nazr is starting and I hope he continues to improve.
Rasho is getting to the point where his minutes do not justify his contract (see Malik Rose) and I wouldn't be surprised to see him on the block again this summer. I hope we can find someone else who can at least stay in a game againt Yao or Shaq, though. Yao in particular is only 25 and only getting better.
If it weren't for Angel's constant reminders, I would have forgotten Rasho was on the team
I think too that some factor made Rasho lack of spee more problematic :
- Duncan : Sometimes Duncan guard the opposite C, Rasho had to guard the opposite PF who is too quick for Rasho. In Minny with KG, I think he always guard the opposite C.
- NBA has changed : When Spurs signed Rasho our main opponent was Lakers with Shaq. Now it's Phoenix and Dallas : Phoenix plays without center and Dallas centers aren't offensive weapon. Rasho hasn't good matchup in the west outside of Yao. Maybe it's the end of the big centers in nba and Rasho is one of the last dinosaur.
Rasho will maybe be a better player int the east where they are way more true center (Big Z, Shaq, Curry, Brezec, Haywood...)
Fantastic post from Chump, as usual.There is no question that Rasho understands the Spurs' defensive system better than Nazr. There is still a measureable difference in allowed FG% between the two and actually a negligible difference in defensive rebounding (maybe a slight surprise, but positioning and tipping may have something to do with it).
That said, the difference is much less than it was last season. Part of it could well be Nazr's getting used to the system and players and vice versa. Another factor would be that Duncan's reduced mobility exacerbates Rasho's sloth and lack of athleticism. It's very difficult to run two slow frontcourt players in this league, especially when one of those players doesn't bring much else to the table outside of good picks.
Anyway Duncan's injury affects him on both sides of the floor, and Nazr helps tremendously on the offensive side with his offensive boarding and agressiveness going to the basket.
I agree with Kori in that I liked having Rasho start because it established alot of stability. Defensive rotations were generally more solid and frustrating to our opponents and the offense seemed to find a rhythm more quickly with Rasho setting pick after pick for Tony. I understand why Nazr is starting and I hope he continues to improve.
Rasho is getting to the point where his minutes do not justify his contract (see Malik Rose) and I wouldn't be surprised to see him on the block again this summer. I hope we can find someone else who can at least stay in a game againt Yao or Shaq, though. Yao in particular is only 25 and only getting better.
According to 82games:
Unit Min Off Def +/- W L Win%
Parker-Ginobili-Bowen-Duncan-Nesterovic 350 718 612 +106 22 17 56.4
Parker-Ginobili-Bowen-Duncan-Mohammed 208 456 363 +93 23 9 71.8
W = number of games a unit outscored its opponents while on the court.
L = number of games a unit was outscored by its opponents while on the court.
Win% = the winning percentage for the unit based on Wins versus Losses.
We seem to outscore our opponent on a more regular basis with Nazr as a starter than with Rasho, according to the win %. We give up 1.745 points per minute with Nazr with the starting lineup, and 1.749 with Rasho in with that same lineup. With Nazr playing with the starters we score 2.192 points pere minute with Nazr playing with the starting lineup, and with Rasho playing with the starting lineup, we score 2.051 points per minute. So we give up 0.004 points more per minute with Nazr in the game, but score 0.141 more points per minute. Based on these facts, we have been a better team this year with Nazr in with the starting lineup than with Rasho. I tend to agree with the sentiments regarding Rasho being a better position defender, Nazr a better rebounder, but I thought I'd look at the numbers. I might be wrong on those calculations, I'm not a huge fan of math, but I thought it would be interesting to look into
Nahhh he sucks. Yao made clinic on Rasho in the first half tonight
yao has been doing that to everyone lately. i think nazr gives up 50 lbs to yao.
See that rolling eyes smiley???
Like this one---------->
Rasho was good tonight. Very good.
Had 1 more rebound than a dead guy.
, put me out there, my fat ass could get ONE.
And a couple of tips to teammates.
There is not enough space on the court for your fat ass.
Look how Rasho played Yao tonight vs how Nazr played him.
It depends on the opponent on which should get the most minutes on the floor.
Oh my.....There is not enough space on the court for your fat ass.
That makes too much sense for some mo-fos on this boards.
Obviously you can't critisize the Slovenians....
Of course not.
I agree I thought Rasho played pretty well tonight, and so did Nazr when he got in the game. However I do remember the announcers talking about how Rasho was wearing Yao down in the second half, I would agree Yao was dogging it when I turned the game on in the third. Everytime he had the ball rasho was all over him, leaning on him, swiping, really getting to him.
When have you ever stopped?
I guess we should stop?
Ok.
Lets all be hunky dory and not do it...
Does that include Rasho?? or just the Posters?
I want to be ready in case one of them insults me
Yeah. I'll be holding my breath...
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