Students here in SA

[easjer]

I don't understand the Mexican flag thing either, but I don't care what language people speak - it's not as if we have a national language, though English is the most commonly spoken/written language in America.

Shrug. I am not in favor of any form of illegal immigration for any reason. I am not in favor of an amnesty program (though if a guest worker program were ins uted, I'm not opposed to allowing applications from illegal immigrants). I don't get a free crime because I'm a citizen, I don't see why people who are not citizens should get one either. That goes for border crossings of any kind. Those Canadians are tricky creatures, eh.

[MannyIsGod]

You know whats a myth about illegals not paying a dime into the system? That illegals don't pay a dime into the system. Many of them have taxes deducted from their checks every week. Many of them work with sold SSNs, so everything looks legit and their money goes right into Uncle Sams coffers.

So, thats a big time myth.

As for these kids, I think Easjer hit the nail on the head. Maybe 1 out of 5 actually understands the issue and knows what they are doing and why they are doing it. However, all protests are like that. I've never been involved in a protest where at least some of the people were there because it was a social event for them. Its just the way it is.

Whatever, maybe a few kids will get turned on to activism from this. Thats a good thing.

[MannyIsGod]

Also, look at the schools where the Students are walking out. I went to Clark, and I can tell you that its pretty godamn white. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume Judsun is just about the same.

Call me unimpressed, but I'd be more impressed to see some schools on the Westside and Southside have large walkouts. 60 students or so is meh.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

You won't hear any disagreement from me on that (Medicaid). Medicaid and Social Security are the two biggest problems facing this nation's future.

They could do a lot by allowing health spending accounts, flex spending accounts, and investment in 401ks/iras.

But heavenforbid they piss off any potential voters instead of doing the right thing for this country.

[SA210]

Whatever, maybe a few kids will get turned on to activism from this. Thats a good thing.

Exactly. It'll turn some heads, and if you can just reach one...and on....

But yea, the south and westside schools, where ya at?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I'm with you on all of that easjer.

The language thing is a pet peeve of mine. Every country in the world has an official language except for this one, and it's for fear of angering some minority group and their votes going to the other side of the aisle.

Being in Texas I hate at times going places and having a communication barrier. It's my own freakin' country for crying out loud.

[MoSpur]

All I have to say is that the offices you work in and the homes/apartments you live in were built by immigrants. Most of them Mexican. It sounds like a joke or may sound like I am being silly, but its true. No way to deny it. Its true.

[MannyIsGod]

You want to make english the official language? Fine. Make sure every kid graduating can speak it correctly. Take a look at the literacy rate. It is absolutel .

[MannyIsGod]

Well, you can keep them all criminals, but good luck catching them all and finding a place to put them.

You can either keep your right and wrong stance, or you can join the real world where the immigrants - illegal or not - are a big part of the economy.

[MoSpur]

I'm with you on all of that easjer.

The language thing is a pet peeve of mine. Every country in the world has an official language except for this one, and it's for fear of angering some minority group and their votes going to the other side of the aisle.

Being in Texas I hate at times going places and having a communication barrier. It's my own freakin' country for crying out loud.

Re ed. How old are you? 10?

[Sunshine]

Are prostesting off of DeZavala and IH-10. Its good to see them out there trying to get a message across. Some might be there to be out of school or some wrong reason, but there are a few who actually care about the immigration issue.

I saw that when I went to the bank at lunch today. At first I couldn't figure out what the heck was going on...thought it was a wreck until I saw all the kids standing on the embankment.

It's nice to see young people stand up for a cause.

[easjer]

I think that's great. Immigration is great for the people who come here and great for us, since many immigrants are happy to do work our own countrymen won't do. Wonderful. All I ask is that it be legal. I like to know who is in the country. It has nothing to do with Medicare or anything other than the fact that I am opposed to illegal immigration (which puts the immigrants at great risk) when we allow people into our country legally.

[MannyIsGod]

Then call your crongressperson and senator and tell them that you want a guest worker program. Because thats the only way this is going to get solved but right now they're dragging their heels.

[easjer]

An excellent suggestion.

[LakerHater0823]

Speak the truth Manny!! I believe Native Americans are the only people who can really about too many people coming over and taking over their land because that is what white people did. I have worked with immigrants digging ditches, pouring concrete and so on; these people are mostly law abiding and peaceful. All they want is a chance to give their children a better chance then they had, and right now the Mexican government is not going to change to help them. Its amazing that we can go all the way to IRAQ to free Iraqis from Saddam, but letting some Mexican people come here to make better lives for themselves is cause for arrest and punishment!

[SA210]

Speak the truth Manny!! I believe Native Americans are the only people who can really about too many people coming over and taking over their land because that is what white people did. I have worked with immigrants digging ditches, pouring concrete and so on; these people are mostly law abiding and peaceful. All they want is a chance to give their children a better chance then they had, and right now the Mexican government is not going to change to help them. Its amazing that we can go all the way to IRAQ to free Iraqis from Saddam, but letting some Mexican people come here to make better lives for themselves is cause for arrest and punishment!

It's called racism.

[dougp]

Also, look at the schools where the Students are walking out. I went to Clark, and I can tell you that its pretty godamn white. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume Judsun is just about the same.

Call me unimpressed, but I'd be more impressed to see some schools on the Westside and Southside have large walkouts. 60 students or so is meh.

When was the last time you were at Clark? It is not pretty damn white. Judson? THE FREAKING EAST SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO? Mostly African Americans and Hispanics.

Anyways, my stance on this is such, they are trespassing in the United States. Here in Texas, we are allowed to kill if someone trespasses on your property if you feel your life and/or possessions are in danger. I feel that all/above are issues, muhaha so I guess we all know my solutions.

[MoSpur]

When was the last time you were at Clark? It is not pretty damn white. Judson? THE FREAKING EAST SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO? Mostly African Americans and Hispanics.

Anyways, my stance on this is such, they are trespassing in the United States. Here in Texas, we are allowed to kill if someone trespasses on your property if you feel your life and/or possessions are in danger. I feel that all/above are issues, muhaha so I guess we all know my solutions.

The only thing I agree with is what you mentioned about Clark and Judson having a huge Mexican population. Other than that, nothing else.

Trespassing? Are you serious? If that's the case we are all trespassing. This country wasn't even ours to begin with. Texas belonged to the Mexicans first. Your solution is pretty funny. I know you can't be serious.

[travis2]

It's called racism.

Bull . It's called demanding respect for laws currently in place.

[SA210]

It's called demanding respect for laws currently in place.

Tell that to W.

[dougp]

The only thing I agree with is what you mentioned about Clark and Judson having a huge Mexican population. Other than that, nothing else.

Trespassing? Are you serious? If that's the case we are all trespassing. This country wasn't even ours to begin with. Texas belonged to the Mexicans first. Your solution is pretty funny. I know you can't be serious.

No, I'm not serious about my solution but I am pretty serious about about them not being here.

[easjer]

It's not always about racism. It is for some, sure. They don't want none of them dark-skinned-messkin- -ess-pan-yol-speakers in their damn country.

But there are plenty of us who feel the same way if you talk about the Northern border. Or if you talk about any illegal immigrants without regard to their nationalities or ethnicities. I don't like the idea of people entering our country illegally period. I don't care where they come from or why they are here. I welcome folks with open arms who come here legally - come, have a better life, by all means. Just do it legally. I don't understand why that's too much to ask.

[MoSpur]

No, I'm not serious about my solution but I am pretty serious about about them not being here.

Why?

[travis2]

Tell that to W.

Hasn't broken any. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

MoSpur, you're the only re I see on this thread.

As an aside, Manny, I agree with you - people need to be taught English and they need to learn how to speak and write it. Period. Screw the TAKS and TAAS and all that crap, the only thing you should have to prove in a standardized method when you graduate HS is that you can sit down and write a coherent essay.

Alright, literacy rant over.

MoSpur - what don't you get? Go take some history lessons. America looks a lot right now like the great Roman Empire did before it fell. We don't need Al Qaeda, we're tearing ourselves apart from within.

I'm all for a guest worker type program. , they could even implement a Public Works program similar to the one done between WWI and WWII and let people contribute to the good of the community as a step to citizenship.

If you're willing to work, I don't have a problem with you staying. I have a problem with all the deadbeat types leaching on our social programs and thinking they're en led to something because they're on this side of the border.

And we're already at the point where it feels like American citizens have less rights than those who aren't in this country, and that's a depressing thought.