i agree. he is a very key player. just like Josh Howard is a very key player for the Mavericks. or how Shawn Marion is a very key player for the Suns. these teams clearly won't do as well without these players, but they are still very good teams (although I'd say Marion is more valuable to the Suns than Howard is to the Mavs or Ginobili is to the Spurs, but you get the point...)
The way I look at it is Tim is simply a more valuable defensive piece to the team. He is more valuable of a defender because of his team defense. Take Bowen off the team I think the team is still excellent on defense. Take Duncan off the team and I don't think the team is as good on defense, even if you can find a replacement player who is very effective on offense. Big men tend to be more valuable on defense IMO.
we are talking about this year not last year
parker is >>>>>then last year
tp has talked about why he is more responisible for more scoring this year
because manu and duncan are not up to it
so is duncan the main ancor this year?
I do not think so I think it is more of a balance attack or more facor of tp
100 agreed. You sir, are one smart Spurs fan.
Since this is a specific team MVP, let's keep everyone happy with awards.
Overall all-around MVP: TD
Offensive MVP: Parker
Defensive MVP: Bruce
Close, difficult games and playoffs MVP: Manu
Clutch MVP: Horry
...and so on.
Tony parker WITHOUT A DOUBT. Tim is going to be always the mvp of this team but we can deny the season tony is having.
Oberto
how can you say manu is the mvp for the playoffs when they have not played any playoff games
if he plays like last year in playoffs he might be but he has not played as good as last year yet this year
what makes you say that since manu has been hurt alot this year
because you think he is better loking then tony
Manu deserves the world
IMO, the debate is still alive until TP proves himself in the playoffs just like Manu proved himself in last year's playoffs. Moreover, Manu continues to be the number one or two option in the 4th quarter.
beautiful. Let the Kobme types squabble over the rest.
Get it through your ing head. Even though Tim may be the cause of Tony's scoring, it's TONY'S scoring, no one elses. Tony Parker has scored the points, dished the assists, hit the big shots, and recently began to stroke his free throws. The Spurs would not have one the trophy last year without Manu, Tim, or Tony. Take any of those players out and you have no ring.
We all know Tim Duncan is the best and he is our franchise, but he is not the Spurs' MVP right now because he is no as consistent nor does he carry the team or produce like Tony. Without Tony's increased scoring, we're in the number four seat. Tim Duncan is injured, and there's no doubt in my mind that if he wasn't, he'd be the MVP and the Spurs would have the #1 seed in the NBA by 4 or 5 games, but Tim has been injured, and this is Tony's season right now.
Without Tim Tony or Manu= no NBA champion
we need all
TP play very well in more game this year but Tim play with bad plantar
He was the MVP in almost all the big games we've played this season. From the 26 points he scored in our first game against the Nuggets this season to the 30 points he scored @ Dallas, to the 38 points he scored @ Miami, to even the 32 points he scored @ Toronto in OT without Duncan.
No one is discrediting the importance of Duncan to the team or denying that he's the #1 option, if healthy, on our team. But the bottom line is, Tim hasn't been healthy for the majority of this season and Tony's stepped up his game in ways none of imagined this season. So yes, for this season, I'd say that Tony is the Spurs MVP.
Take Bowen off the Spurs and the Spurs would suck.
I think obviously Tony is the MVP so far this season. He has held it together all year.
But what really matters is the playoffs. Manu, Tony, Tim and Bruce need to play like MVPs and go win this thing.
Take Bowen off the Spurs and the Spurs would suck.
I think obviously Tony is the MVP so far this season. He has held it together all year.
But what really matters is the playoffs. Manu, Tony, Tim and Bruce need to play like MVPs and go win this thing.
Listen to theof Spurstalk She knows the game
Without Tim, they arent even in the playoffs. They were like 6-7 last year without him, and they played mostly ty teams through that period. Dallas was one of the only good teams they played, and they got their asses handed to them.
And as for the "its Tony's scoring" stuff... do you think that without Jordan drawing up triple teams, Steve Kerr or John Paxon would have made game winners in the NBA Finals??? , without Jordan, they wouldn't have even been in the Finals in the first place. If it weren't for Duncan drawing double and triple teams, the Mavs would most likely have beaten the Spurs in game 6 in 03 and sent the series to a game 7. Without Duncan drawing those, Steven Jackson and Steve Kerr would not have had all those open looks. You seriously are a model of ignorance, and homerism.
Anyways, smartass... you clearly misunderstood the point, and obviously pick and choose what you read. I also said that without a good role player, like Manu, they wouldnt be as good. You are one stupid ing .
EXACTLY. Parker may have been playing better than anyone on the team, but without Duncan, he would not have anywhere NEAR 50% shooting, and while his assist to turnover ratio already isnt very good, it would probably be even worse without Duncan.
Saying stuff like that shows she CLEARLY doesnt know the game. Although losing Bowen would definitely hurt the team, but they wont SUCK. they would still be a good team, because they have Tim Duncan. And again... without Duncan, Parker wouldnt be NEARLY as productive.Listen to the
You kidding me? Bowen off the Spurs and the Spurs SUCK on D? Bowen alone makes them elite? I don't think a perimeter defensive stopper could ever be as valuable as a big man defender who is elite. Actually I would say when Duncan is 100% he is easily the more valuable defender. Unless you are judging by the notion that Duncan is 70% on D this year?Take Bowen off the Spurs and the Spurs would suck.
I think obviously Tony is the MVP so far this season. He has held it together all year.
But what really matters is the playoffs. Manu, Tony, Tim and Bruce need to play like MVPs and go win this thing.
100% Duncan. Parker falls in love with his shot way too often and sometimes strays from the game plan in order to fulfill his quest for impressive box scores.
Duncan is usually patient and the offense runs through him without a hitch.
You're such a ing re . Go stick to getting owned in the NBA Forum, because you have no god damn takes. Without Tim, the Spurs would be a playoff team, not a good one, but they would be there. No one is ing questioning his importance, dumb , but if you really think Tony Parker has not be the #1 reason to our success this season, you have your head so far up your ass that it's not even funny.
If both are healthy and playing well, then Tim is still our go to guy that makes everything work. And he's still important although this season he hasn't played up to his standards.
That's why Tony is our MVP this year. without his contributions in taking up the scoring slack from Tim for most of the year, we would not be leading the West and approaching a historic win/loss record.
Our franchise player. Timvp.
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