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None of the above...
It should be
MANU
This season, some would say that Tony Parker has been the Spurs' MVP, and rightfully so; others(like me) however would point out that Tim Duncan is still the team's MVP. What do you think? Let's say that one of them wasn't there, do you think a Parker-less spurs team would win more games and be better of than a Duncan-less one? or would it be th other way around? I personally incline towards a team with Duncan there because of how the Spurs system works; Tim gets the ball and everyone scatters around, that's how the Spurs half-court offense runs (of course when Parker isn't running past everybody and scoring an easy deuce). so given all their great skills and few of their deficiences, who do u think is the leader of this team? who's the MVP? who could the Spurs survive without?
This isn't intended to be a persuasive thread, just want to know you guys' opinions .
None of the above...
It should be
MANU
Wow.. That's just too hard. I hate to think of the Spurs minus either of them.
You are right, in that the offense runs through Tim. But then I wonder, with Tim being less that 100% most of the year, where would the Spurs be without the leadership Tony has shown?
Then of course, you have to consider Manu, who it seems when things aren't going so well, seems to pick it up a notch and get them back into games. Or who takes over in the fourth and seldom misses a free throw down the final stretch.
I guess I just have to go back to what I have always said about this team. It is a TEAM. And if you take away one of the pieces, who knows what would happen.
Tony Parker has been consistent all year. Tony is our MVP right now.
Offensive MVP = Tony Parker
Defensive MVP = Tim Duncan
Overall MVP = Tim Duncan
It would be Tony Parker. Duncan and Manu been hurt pretty much all year. Parker has been consistent and been the leader.
Not even. Bowen is the defensive MVP. If you haven't noticed, Tim's defense is not really as good this year because of the PF.
In Spurs team all are MVP's...the system, the teamwork and even we have the Most Valuable coach....
Isn't Bruce ALWAYS our defensive MVP?
without tp and the way td n manu has played we will be around the .600 mark and playoff bound 5-6postion, now without td, um lottery.
in td i trust only!
TP = Spurs MVP
I dont think its even close. Obviously, Spurs fans have an affection for TD (totally understandable). But an unbias, objective view (or how about just my opinion)?
TP. No question
right, wrong, wrong
Offensive MVP = Tony Parker
Defensive MVP = Bruce Bowen
Overall MVP = Tony Parker
Tim Duncan has had no where near the defensive excellence he's had previous years. He's playing well as of late though (3 blks in the first quarter last night is impressive). Bowen has been the spurs best and most consistent defender all year. He guards positions 1-4 and switches back and forth periodically game by game or play by play as it was with Arenas and Jameson. Bowen even has a case for the spurs MVP but tp has played too well. G. Anthony listed him last night as his top 3 mvp.
I think Duncan is still the MVP. I mean come on, Tony is only averaging about one more point than Tim is and that is solely because Tim anchors the offense. Plus on defense Tim is way more productive as well. I don't think anyone can say either Tp or Manu are more important than Tim, it was stupid last season, it is stupid now.
Without Tony, the Spurs would be a lot less effective on offense. Lane penetration and open looks for our shooters would be lesser overall. However, Manu's drives, 4-down and pick-n-roll would partly cover up some of that.
Without Tim, the interior defense would be poor. The Spurs' perimeter defense, which is predicated on funneling teams into the bigs, would need to be altered. And that's not all: the Spurs would become one of the worst rebounding teams in the NBA. Even with Tim grabbing 11+ per game, we get outrebounded by physical frontcourts. If all we have is Nazr/Rasho/Horry/Oberto/Marks, we'd give up more offensive boards than the Suns did last year.
The Spurs are actually 3rd in the league in eFG% at 51.3 %. Parker's eFG% is 55.3%. It's higher than the team average but not way higher. Of course as I said, our shooters would get less open looks and would not shoot as well. Overall Parker's absence would have a moderately significant impact.
The Spurs don't make the top 10 in rebounding differential or rebounding %. No two ways about it: it's a glaring weakness which has gotten exposed in more than a few games. In that scenario, you take out the league's 5th best rebounder, and it's over: 80% of the league would be comfortably outrebounding us. Also Duncan alone accounts for half the shots blocked by the Spurs. More importantly, teams would lose the fear of driving on our defense. Nazr and Horry won't intimidate anybody in the paint.
The Spurs have been getting away with starting stiffs at one of the frontcourt positions because the other frontcourt spot is occupied by the best big man in the league. Take him away and it would get ugly.
I am not discounting either Timmy or Gino's contributions- love them both and everyone has played a part in our success.
But I would have to give the MVP to Tony. He has been the most exceptional and the most consistent of our main three all year.
what makes you say that since manu has been hurt alot this year
because you think he is better loking then tony
Tony
Yes TD is more important than tp, but we are talking about MVP. It is clear that tp has been the more VALUABLE player for the spurs this season. TP has kept and saved the spurs in more games this season. It was sad sometimes when TD could barely get off the ground.
TD WILL ALWAYS BE MORE IMPORTANT
TP was the MVP this year.
Who cares? Just win
plus when playoffs are said and done, that's when we'll know who's MVP
Yeah right, manu has only come on of late and he has strugled more than Duncan this year.
Tony is the only guy that has been consistant on this years team and has, in my opinion, forever ended the debate on who the real number 2 option is.
Nothing wrong with this thread topic.
However, aren't we glad we care much more about the team le.
Let the L.A. Flamers types worry about who their teams MVP is.
whoever says TP or Manu are the Spurs MVP has no idea what they are talking about. Without Duncan, this is a very average team. Duncan completely opens up that offense. Sure, he may be hurt, but teams are still paying at least twice as much attention to what he does on offense than Parker or Ginobili. Without Duncan there to absorb all sorts of attention, double, and sometimes triple teams, Parker and Ginobili would not have NEARLY the number of open lanes and shots. And on defense, there is no question that they need Duncan. Really, the defense is more about the system, and great teamwork. The Spurs have an amazing defense, but with Duncan manning the middle, it lets other guys spend more time defending the perimeter, which makes it so much easier for the rest of the guys. It keeps them a little more fresh for the offense. And all of you who are saying that bull about Duncan and Ginobili being hurt... well, Ginobili was hurt at the START of the year. Duncan has been a little tweaked, but is still playing great, and is still the best PF in the game, and probably the best PF of all time. Duncan is WITHOUT QUESTION this teams MVP, and still will be for several more years.
Tim Duncan is the Spurs. Without Duncan, they have no chance of winning anything. However, they can still win without Ginobili or Parker. THAT is how you define an MVP. NOT by the numbers they put up.
negatory. Spurs without Manu or with superhobbled but playing SuperManu vs Pistons last year were flat and got punked twice. I'm not saying Manu is the MVP but I am saying he was key player and made many key plays in Spurs wins.
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