What About 's Senate Attendance???? Proof in the Pudding...

[JohnnyMarzetti]

head serves as President of the Senate. That means that he PRESIDES over precedings in the Senate. Tuesdays are also when both parties hold their caucus meetings. Do you expect to see Edwards at Republican caucus meetings, or are you just that dumb?

Damn you guys will believe anything Cheney and Dubya spew.
I suppose you all believe their don't stink either?

[whottt]

Trying to say Cheney isn't there is stupid with the heavy transitional agenda this administration has had...due to the switch to republican control...to the changes required by Sept 2001...

I mean the criticism is that this guy has a hard on for mideast oil...yet you guys think he is going to be ing off with the key vote...

It's totally contradictory...the crats are just throwing against the wall and hoping it sticks with their lemming voters.

And excs...STFU...I'm willing to bet he's done it more than any VP since WWII, I'm just not willing to bet the full 500 on that...

I mean as the odds go up the amount you risk goes down if you are any kind of a sensible bettor.

[JohnnyMarzetti]

It isn't about if Cheney cast a tie-breaking vote or not.

It his pompous remark stating something that isn't true.
But then again he lies so freakin' much he really believes his own BS.

[Marcus Bryant]

serves as President of the Senate. That means that he PRESIDES over precedings in the Senate

Unless, perhaps, just perhaps, he defers to the President Pro Tempore. Where is the rule that if Cheney is in the Senate building he has to actually preside over the session?

[JohnnyMarzetti]

Well then he should have said "I'm in the building on most Tuesdays".

[Marcus Bryant]

Here's what he said:

"Now, in my capacity as vice president, I am the president of Senate, the presiding officer. I'm up in the Senate most Tuesdays when they're in session."
-- Cheney

So as Vice President he is the President of the Senate which means he is the ultimate presiding officer. That is correct.

Then he says that he is "in the Senate most Tuesdays when they're in session". So if he can be "in the Senate" when "they're in session" without having to be the "presiding officer" I don't see the problem.

[JohnnyMarzetti]

You never see the problems when it comes to this administration.

[whottt]

Marcus is kicking your ass with 5th grade govt...President Pro Tempore...and even that role has tons of standins...

Bottom line Chaney has cast more deciding votes in 4 years than Gore did in 8...he cast more deciding votes than sessions over which he presided...I think the VP generally does not preside...I think that is the general rule and it has been for a long long time. However, unless he wants the president and his fellow party members crawling up his ass he is going to be available to cast that vote as much as possible. Especially when we are in a war.

Figure it out...of course he's going to be around if he is the deciding vote...I mean which is it? Is he war hawk? An Oil war profiteer? Or is he a screwoff? It's 1 or the other...it can't be both(unless of course you are John ing Kerry).

[Marcus Bryant]

Oh, I've seen plenty of problems with this administration. But I've also seen plenty of problems with the criticisms levelled at it.

[JohnnyMarzetti]

Again you bumbling idiots, this is about Cheney flat out lying.

Perhaps you'd read better if you weren't having to look through Dubya's asshole.

[Marcus Bryant]

this is about Cheney flat out lying.

Yes, the discussion has been about that in this thread. Thanks for noticing.

[exstatic]

whottt- You got challenged, realized you were talking out of your ass, and backed off. That's a backpedal.

PUNK'D

[whottt]

How'd I get punked? I said I'd be willing to bet, I am willing to bet on anything I said.

But I was only willing to be 500 precious Vbucks on Cheney VS Gore...I ing win.

Where is Dan anyway? I mean I see him posting...but he has yet to return to this thread...how convenient...why do I get the feeling I am not going to like what he has to say about the bet when he returns...

[exstatic]

I'd be willing to bet that Chaney has cast more deciding votes in his first term as VP than probably any other VP in the past 40 years, probably since WWII, maybe even longer......

I'm not willing to go out on the limb that he did it more than any VP in the ColdWar, WWII or Viet Nam Eras..I'm sure of myself but I'm not that sure...

BACKPEDAL

[whottt]

It's not a backpedal...limb = 500 V Bucks...I'm still willing to bet on the WWII issue, just not my entire vbuck fortune...are you a moron that doesn't realize why you would not bet as much on some bets as you would on others?

Let me spell it out for you...

I am willing to bet Chaney has cast more deciding votes in his first term than any other VP in the past 40 years. Maybe even since WWII.

I am only willing to bet 500 VBucks... that Chaney cast more than Gore did in his two terms combined. I won this one by the way.

I wasn't alive for WWII you see...so I am not as sure on that as I am on an era in which I lived.

I am willing to bet 50 dollars on a lot of bets...I am not willing to bet my entire life savings on a lot of bets...are you too stupid to realize the difference in stakes or the odds?

[whottt]

And BTW...what you are doing is called changing the subject so no one notices how badly you got your ass kicked on the attendance issue.

[Samurai Jane]

So, what we basically have is 4 more votes than the number of times the list says he was even there. I submit that this list is severely lacking as credible evidence as it does not even reflect the 6 times we know Cheney was there. (Can he vote without being in attendance???) Without further proof, this topic is not even worth arguing about anymore.

[exstatic]

How did my ass get kicked on the attendance issue? So far, we have one poster who saw Cheney on TV exactly one more time than the two times he's on the record.

Presiding as President of the Senate
Cheney 2
Edwards 1

That's on the record. That's a fact. Anything else is conjecture, but since you live and die by conjecture, I wouldn't expect you to know the difference.

[exstatic]

I agree, SJ. It does beg questions about his bringing Edwards to task, though.

[Yonivore]

Prove that he was there. According to Cheney, if the record shows that you weren't there, you weren't there, right ?

What day did he tell that guy to go himself? Is that day on the list?

Did he miss any opportunities to break a Senate tie?

[SpursWoman]

What's funny is most of you are missing his point entirely, you're so damn defensive and quick to get your knickers in a twist over anything a Republican says that it has completely destroyed your ability to "get it."

Edwards is NOTORIOUS for missing Senate votes...the Bush campaign DID NOT come up with "Senator Gone", his very own cons uents in Carolina did.

Senators are elected by the people to represent them, you know--that whole government of the people, for the people, etc? And if he's not showing up, he's not really representing anything but his own interests, is he? He's doing the people of Carolina a great disservice and you guys are ing defending it. Unreal.

Actually, I take that back...you aren't really defending it...you're turning it into another "...so what, BUSH/CHENEY...blah, blah, blah"....to divert attention away from it. Because apparently it's difficult to come to the realization that Edwards' more than likely does, in fact, stink.


Oooooo, ooooh!!! CHENEY LIED!!! OOOhhhh, oohhh!


In tribute to my favorite, con ously missing poster:

facetious

adj : cleverly amusing in tone; "a bantering tone"; "facetious remarks"; "tongue-in-cheek" [syn: bantering, tongue-in-cheek]

[Spurminator]

You never see the problems when it comes to this administration.

And you only do.

I love when partisans play the partisan card.

I propose a rule: If you haven't never argued for the opposition at least once in your last 5,000 posts, you don't get to call someone out for being biased. I think that's fair.

[exstatic]

Yoni is officially muted.

[whottt]

And exlaxtic has oficially forgotten the le of this thread:

What About 's Senate Attendance???? Proof in the Pudding...

LOL

[IcemanCometh]

so if edwards is senator gone is bush president gone? he has more "vacations" to his presidential retreat than any president ever. that i am willing to bet 500 vbucks on whott you cheese . of course we all know what those vacations really are.


as far as how could he have attended senate from his undisclosed location?