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Cheney Attendance at Senate
by Dave the pro
Wed Oct 6th, 2004 at 17:30:44 GMT
(From the diaries, Cheney presided over the Senate a grand total of two times the past four years -- just one more time than Edwards, who did so once. Slightly edited -- kos)
"Now, in my capacity as vice president, I am the president of Senate, the presiding officer. I'm up in the Senate most Tuesdays when they're in session."
-- Cheney
The extended entry has the presiding officers over the last four years for every Tuesday session.
Diaries :: Dave the pro's diary ::
Here is a list of the Senate's Acting Presidents for every Tuesday session for 2001.
January 30 - Enzi
February 6 - Chafee
February 13 - Chafee
February 27 - Allen
March 6 - Burns
March 13 - Reid
March 20 - DeWine
March 27 - Chafee
April 3 - Smith
April 24 - Chafee
May 1 - Chafee
May 8 - Chafee
May 15 - Frist
May 22 - Chafee
June 5 - Enzi
June 12 - Byrd
June 19 - Carper
June 26 - Bayh
July 10 - Nelson
July 17 - Clinton
July 24 - Byrd
July 31 - Stabenaw
September 25 - Wellstone
October 2 - Clinton
October 9 - Clinton
October 16 - Edwards!!!!!
October 23- Byrd
October 30 - Bingaman
November 13 - Murray
November 27 - Jeffords
December 4 - Stabenaw
December 11 - Carnahan
December 18 - Nelson
A reward to whoever finds a Tuesday in 2002, 2003 or 2004 that Cheney fulfilled his duties as President of the Senate here:
http://www.gpoaccess.gov/crecord/index.html
2002
Tue 1/29 - Nelson
Tue 2/5 - Kohl
Tue 2/12 - Stabenow
Tue 2/26 - Landrieu
Tue 3/5 - Edwards
Tue 3/12 - Landrieu
Tue 3/19 - Miller
Tue 4/9 - Cleland
Tue 4/16 - Reed
Tue 4/23 - Wellstone
Tue 4/30 - Nelson
Tue 5/7 - Miller
Tue 5/14 - Cleland
Tue 5/21 - Nelson
Tue 6/4 - Durbin
Tue 6/11 - Corzine
Tue 6/18 - Dayton
Tue 6/25 - Landrieu
Tue 7/9 - Reed
Tue 7/16 - Corzine
Tue 7/23 - Reed
Tue 7/30 - Clinton
Tue 9/3 - Reed
Tue 9/10 - Corzine
Tue 9/17 - Reid
Tue 9/24 - Stabenow
Tue 10/1 - Miller
Tue 10/8 - Miller
Tue 10/15 - Reid
Tue 11/12 - CHENEY! -- WE HAVE A WINNER!
Tue 11/19 - Barkley (MN)
2003
Jan 7 *Cheney*
Jan 14 Stevens
Jan 22 Stevens
Jan 28 Stevens
Feb 4 Stevens
Feb 11 Stevens
Feb 25 Stevens
Mar 4 Stevens
Mar 11 Stevens
Mar 18 Stevens
Mar 25 Stevens
Apr 1 Stevens
Apr 8 Stevens
Apr 29 Stevens
May 6 Talent
May 13 Ensign
May 20 Alexander
June 3 Stevens
June 10 Stevens
June 18 Murkowski
June 24 Coleman
July 8 Stevens
July 15 Stevens
July 22 Chaffee
July 29 Stevens
Sept 2 Stevens
Sept 9 Stevens
Sept 16 Stevens
Sept 23 Stevens
Sept 30 Sununu
Oct 21 Stevens
Oct 28 Stevens
Nov 4 Stevens
Nov 11 Warner
Nov 18 Stevens
Dec 9 Stevens
2004
1/20 - Stevens
1/27 - Enzi
2/3 - Stevens
2/10 - Stevens
3/2 - Stevens
3/9 - Hagel
3/16 - Sununu
3/23 - Stevens
3/30 - Ensign
4/6 - Cornyn
4/20 - Stevens
4/27 - Chambliss
5/4 - Stevens
5/11 - Stevens
5/18 - Stevens
6/1 - Stevens
6/8 - Hutchinson
6/15 - Stevens
6/22 - Allard
7/6 - Burns
7/13 - Stevens
7/20 - Enzi
9/7 - Stevens
9/14 - Chafee
9/21 - Enzi
9/28 - Stevens
10/05 - Stevens
Another good source of information is the Congressional Record, which records ALL congressional proceedings, as well as, member attendance.
is a liar! And Edwards didn't call him out on it!
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...or maybe he just lied again.
He never said he was presiding over the senate every tuesday. He said he was up in the senate most every tues.
Prove that he was there. According to Cheney, if the record shows that you weren't there, you weren't there, right ?
Johnny Appleseed didn't seem to think Cheney was wrong. I wonder why.
You can take this for whatever it's worth, and I don't consider this solid proof by any means, but I recall watching CSPAN or whatever channel that shows the Senate proceedings and seeing Cheney there just a few weeks ago, I believe it was when they were discussing the taxes. (Yes, I was bored..) According to that list he wasn't there at all in 2004.
This doesn't exactly prove that Cheney was not in his office at the Senate, just that he wasn't presiding over the Senate proceedings.
So Cheney said he was up in the Senate on most Tuesdays. How does that make him a liar? He is not bound to be present during roll call during all sessions, and has no vote unless the Senate is equally divided on a vote. Did you ever stop to think that he made his rounds of the Senate, and then left to fulfill his duties as the Vice President?
*Edit*
Marcus beat me to the punch.
Maybe he just strolled in to say o or tell somebody to go....well, you know.
What else is there for the VP to do? One of his major responsibilities is to preside over the Senate. Mr. Cheney cared so little for his responsibili es that he couldn't even stick around for policy debate?and then left to fulfill his duties as the Vice President?
Well, again, you can take this for what it's worth, but the session that I happened to be watching, he was there listening to the policy debate.
Rumor has it Cheney was either with them, or against them.
Again, just because he was not presiding over a session does not mean that he was not in the Senate building meeting with senators. I think Edwards' reaction during the debate was most telling.
Time for you to retake 5th grade govt 101. It's almost laughable how stupid the democrats must think their voters are...it'd be laughable...but unfortunately... they're right...they can simply throw anything out there and you guys will act like you have uncovered some huge conspiracy. You are owned.
Without going into one of my usual lengthy diatribes in which I try to educate, but usually end up embarrasing, my opponent..I'll just say:
All you need to look at is the "oh " look on Edwards face when Chaney made that comment. As for me, I work for a democrat lawyer and I have no doubt that Chaney's comment was a bullseye.
And I'll leave you with 2 questions..
1.Which is it? Is Chaney running the country or is he blowing off his senate duties?
2. Given the change in our country since Sept 11th 2001, and the fact that this has been one of the most active legislative periods in recent US history, and given the fact that the Vice Pres casts the tie breaking vote in the Senate...I'm pretty sure it was in his greedy lying interest to be hanging around JIC.
Which VP has been called on to use that vote the most out of the past 30 years?
In fact, without checking the numbers myself...I'd be willing to bet that Chaney has cast more deciding votes in his first term as VP than probably any other VP in the past 40 years, probably since WWII, maybe even longer......I'd be willing to bet he has already cast as many as Gore did in his entire 8 year term. Can't do that if he's not around.
Are you willing to put all of your $500 V money on that bet?I'd be willing to bet that Chaney has cast more deciding votes in his first term as VP than probably any other VP in the past 40 years, probably since WWII, maybe even longer......I'd be willing to bet he has already cast as many as Gore did in his entire 8 year term. Can't do that if he's not around.
I'm willing to bet he has cast as many as Gore did in his entire 8 year term..yeah. I'm definitely willing to go out on that limb.
I'm not willing to go out on the limb that he did it more than any VP in the ColdWar, WWII or Viet Nam Eras..I'm sure of myself but I'm not that sure...But the Clinton era? Gurantee it.
either way, two wrongs don't make a right...stop making excuses for golden boy.
he came across as well spoken to me in the "debate"....i was listening on radio for a good part of it...he had some valid points...this election is about kerry vs bush though....and kerry has no backbone....case closed.
Are we on or not Dan? No web searching . You got to bet in good faith. 500 V Bucks says Chaney has used that vote as many or more times as Gore did in his two terms combined.
WTF!? This is about Cheney saying he's there almost every Tuesday and it looks like he may have pumped himself up a little too much.
Nice backpedal, whottt.
Gore cast tie breaking votes a total of 4 times during his two terms, Cheney has cast 6 during his term.
Source: US Senate Web Site
Looks like Whott just made a cool $500 in funny money.
So can Cheney be "in the Senate" while "they're in session" without presiding over the actual session?"Now, in my capacity as vice president, I am the president of Senate, the presiding officer. I'm up in the Senate most Tuesdays when they're in session."
-- Cheney
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