Which Spurs players suffered the most from the loss?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

right, but the thread says which Spurs players suffered the most.

Ummm, anyone who doesn't think the loss sucked for everyone on this team hasn't played a lick of compe ive sports in their life

[greens]

I know that it "sucked for everyone"...yes, very true...but you have to admit that some players, like gee...Tony who is only 24 years old has YEARS to win more championships rather than...Finley who might retire after next year or Bowen who might also retire...

This question was just about the long run...not about feelings...not about feeling hurt or disappointed but by the fact there is no championship for the Spurs this season period. Not about who made the mistake, manu...or about who played or did not play...But about how many more chances do CERTAIN players have of winning more championships...like take into your consideration the possibilities of being traded, retiring, getting older, etc...That sort of thing...That's what I meant...not the feelings of disappointment wise...

[Fabbs]

I had high expectations.

I wanted Tim Duncan to be mentioned in the same breath as Shraquile, Kareem, Olajuwan, other multiple le frontline players. Oh he still can, but 3/4 and 4/8 is much more impressive then 3/8 with no back to backs. Ya Shaq only has 3 also, 2 IMO as i don't count the Kings Game 6 ripoff, but they were back to backs....

GNob i also wanted to amass 3/4 with that being amoung the very best all time career starts. Along with shutting the pieholes of all the GNob hater ignoramises. I always had propped his cerebreal game, so the Dirk foul really hurt. He can and will come back IMO, but since this thread is on who was hurt, yes he was hurt.

Tony ditto. Breakout of sorts but close don't count. I have no idea why he was on the floor vs Sacto in the Game 6 blowout and thus got bodied hard by Arterst....

Pop. No way do I vault him to amoung all time best after this. Gifted Finley and VanX for virtually nothing, Tim Dunkar healthy for the playoffs, GNob and Parker in prime along with having Big Shot Rob and Bowen. This was a missed op. He should be hurt, but i don't see much passion coming out of him at all.
I think he is pretty satisfied with what he has done, question his hunger for more les.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I know that it "sucked for everyone"...yes, very true...but you have to admit that some players, like gee...Tony who is only 24 years old has YEARS to win more championships rather than...Finley who might retire after next year or Bowen who might also retire...

Jesus Christ, what the are you looking for? This loss sucked for everyone on this team

There won't be different 'levels of mourning', they're all pissed off and bitter about it. They are at the pinnacle of their sport, they got their by being compe ors all their lives.

About the only quantification you can make is that some will get over it faster than others, but that's due to personality, not because one will have more chances and another might not.

Trying to come up with some kind of gay ass ranking of suffering by this team's players is one of the dumber things I've seen in the history of this forum.

[ALVAREZ6]

There won't be different 'levels of mourning', they're all pissed off and bitter about it. They are at the pinnacle of their sport, they got their by being compe ors all their lives.

So some chode Nick Van Exel who just got onto the bandwagon is supposed to be as pissed as Manu? The guy who has only been a Spur, and ed up that last play?

[greens]

Jesus Christ, what the are you looking for? This loss sucked for everyone on this team

There won't be different 'levels of mourning', they're all pissed off and bitter about it. They are at the pinnacle of their sport, they got their by being compe ors all their lives.

About the only quantification you can make is that some will get over it faster than others, but that's due to personality, not because one will have more chances and another might not.

Trying to come up with some kind of gay ass ranking of suffering by this team's players is one of the dumber things I've seen in the history of this forum.

I was actually referring to the chances of certain veteran players NEVER being able to win another championship DUE to either retiring or being traded! That's what I'm talking about...And you're telling me that Tony and Manu who are both young and have YEARS left to win more and more champions, that they are as badly effected as for instance Finley, who is in his mid thirties and will most likely retire in a year...BIG DIFFERENCE...all players might FEEL disappointed, but in the long run, CERTAIN players have years to win at LEAST three or four more championships than OTHER players on the Spurs...

Anyway, if people want to about this thread...go ahead...But if I did not like a certain thread, I would skip it INSTEAD of posting rude and disrespectful comments. I'm a poster just like you. And I DESERVE to make a thread and express my views. If you don't like the thread or don't agree with my views, DON'T respond and DON'T go on the thread...it's very simple...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

And you're telling me that Tony and Manu who are both young and have YEARS left to win more and more champions, that they are as badly effected as for instance Finley, who is in his mid thirties and will most likely retire in a year.

Hmm, considering Manu has stated that he feels responsible for us losing the series, I'm going to go with ING YES YOU DUMBASS.

Why skip it? I offered my two cents on this, which is that (coming from the perspective of playing compe ive sports all the way up through high school) if you've ever played a sport where you make it to the post-season, when you lose you feel like for days, sometimes weeks.

And that's the entire team, not just 'the older ones vs. the younger ones.'

At least I know you've never played sports in your life, you're arguing too hard with too weak an argument to have done so.

[greens]

Hmm, considering Manu has stated that he feels responsible for us losing the series, I'm going to go with ING YES YOU DUMBASS.

Why skip it? I offered my two cents on this, which is that (coming from the perspective of playing compe ive sports all the way up through high school) if you've ever played a sport where you make it to the post-season, when you lose you feel like for days, sometimes weeks.

And that's the entire team, not just 'the older ones vs. the younger ones.'

At least I know you've never played sports in your life, you're arguing too hard with too weak an argument to have done so.

I hate arguing and therefore, I won't respond to your rude remarks...I'm going to imagine as if you were Mark Cuban...and use Timmy's quote: "I've got nothing to say to you. Not a thing"...

[ALVAREZ6]

I'll give you guys my dead honost opinion on this subject.


I honostly think it's the die hard fans that feel it the most. Die hard fans will watch and support their team for every single regular season game and spend half their lives on spurstalk.com. All they do is watch the games, talk about the Spurs, and give up a lot of friday nights to watch a game by themselves. All they care about is a championship, and wanting it so badly, it hurts when they fail at it.


The players on the other hand, at least know that the wins and losses are all a direct result from their actions. If they want to do something about it, they have that chance. They are the ones out there, not the fans. And they are getting paid a great deal of $ too.

[zeleni]

I did not mention the following people: Barry, Nazr, Rasho, Beno, Nick, etc...because fraknly, since they did not really participate in the Dallas series, I don't think any one of them truly has anything to say about it nor should we feel bad for either one of them...


What's your take on this? Can Bowen and Finley win one more before they both retire? Who do you think suffered the most from the loss?

None of those people were active in active, so all of them are pretty much the ones who will suffer the most.

Nazr will look for a big contract from the bench.
Barry lost his touch and trust of Pop in the decisive series.
Nick left the game losing.
Rasho played great all season and got cut with small ball that didn't even benefit the Spurs.
Beno haven't played against the players he should dominate. He is hungry as a shark by now.

No, we should feel sorry for basketball vets who will be red-hot next year?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I hate arguing and therefore, I won't respond to your rude remarks...I'm going to imagine as if you were Mark Cuban...and use Timmy's quote: "I've got nothing to say to you. Not a thing"...

Ouch, you got me. Like I said, this loss sucked for everyone on this team.

Trying to quantify degrees of suffering by some of the toughest compe ors on the face of the planet is ing stupid.

[greens]

I'll give you guys my dead honost opinion on this subject.


I honostly think it's the die hard fans that feel it the most. Die hard fans will watch and support their team for every single regular season game and spend half their lives on spurstalk.com. All they do is watch the games, talk about the Spurs, and give up a lot of friday nights to watch a game by themselves. All they care about is a championship, and wanting it so badly, it hurts when they fail at it.


The players on the other hand, at least know that the wins and losses are all a direct result from their actions. If they want to do something about it, they have that chance. They are the ones out there, not the fans. And they are getting paid a great deal of $ too.

Yes, I agree with you on this completely. The players also know that it's just a game...it's win or lose...it's not life or death like it is for some really obsessive fans who built their lives around their favorite team. Also players know that loosing is just as much part of the game as winning is. It's really hard to win a championship...the players know that but life is also about so much more than basketball. And their salary is huge. They get paid for doing something they truly love. There are so many people who would LOVE to be in their shoes. And there are a ton of great players, such as Allen Iverson who play their heart out but never even win ONE championship...

So yes, I definitely see what you're saying...Plus these guys have families and friends, as well as a luxurious life...So basketball is not all that they have...

But fans depend on their favorite teams. They spend money on buying their jerseys, expensive tickets, etc...and their time watching the games on tv...So yes, the loss is truly hard on the die-hard fans, too.

Excellent post. Finally, that's the response that I was hoping to get. A real and true honenst opinion. So thank you for responding in such a polite and intelligent manner. I appreciate that.

[milkyway21]

Van Exel probably. He's retiring w/ no ring in the summer

Finley for the disrespect shown by the Mavs fans, Stackhouse, Terry, and later lost to the team.

Manu for the 3pt-play foul on Dirk.

[Cherry]

Manu say this:

I'm doing OK. Better. Not feeling as hurt about this elimination. I've already started to relax. And I don't intend to carry this feeling around with me during the off-season either. It hurts because we had such high expectations for ourselves, a great dream of becoming champions again. But you have to accept that we faced one of the top two teams in the West and it only slipped from our grasp in the final seconds. This series was a roll of the dice, either of us could have won, and it fell to us to be on the losing end...What's done is done. Only one can be the winner. There will certainly be more opportunities in the future.

For the franchise it was also a blow, because we all felt the same, we knew we could win the le. There was a lot of sadness. It was also really hard for Michael Finley, who came from Dallas to play with us because he wanted to win his first ring. He made a huge effort and didn't achieve his dream. Be that as it may, this creates for us a new challenge and instills more hunger in us for next season.

What I accept is that I shouldn't have committed the foul on DN when there were 21 seconds left and we were winning 104 to 101. With these two points plus the free throw being my fault, they tied and we went into overtime. It made me angry and bothered me more than the shot I missed in the last second. The ball could have gone in or not. Having it go in or no is relative, but I shouldn't have committed that foul. I thought that I had managed to block the ball, but the German is very tall and jumped high. He went up very high. I didn't get there and touched him. In another game in this series, in a similar situation, I risked the same thing and managed to commit a major steal on Jason Terry. Of course I received reproaches from the bench after the Nowitski foul, but this was only for one moment. After the game was over, no one said anything. You have to remember that there were 200,000 errors throughout the series, ours and theirs. Well, basketball is a game of errors...

So now I have to think about vacation. It seems like my best years in the NBA have been the odd-numbered ones (champions in 2003 and 2005).

[TDMVPDPOY]

if i was tim duncan, i want everyone on this team gone

[BgT]

if i was tim duncan, i want everyone on this team gone

Lucky for us you are not Duncan, you are something else, which I'm not going to write here.

[Old School Chic]

if i was tim duncan, i want everyone on this team gone

[freedom&justice]

I'd say Finley.

[wildbill2u]

Now I know that ALL the Spurs players, fans, and the coach are disappointed that they lost to Dallas. All the Spurs players are obviously sad about it. But what I'm wondering is who do you guys think suffered the most from this loss? ...

I know Manu must be suffering through the offseason because of his bone-head plays in the playoffs that cost us so dearly.

And the coaching staff will clearly be wondering if they made the right decisions in going with small ball instead of staying with what got you 63 wins. Changing up a defense and offense without a season to practice in was probably pretty stupid even though the Spurs had enough talent to almost win using a radically different style and lineup.

But the biggest dissapointment and suffering has to be Rasho and Nazr who were benched for practically all the playoffs because their coach showed he had no confidence in their game. Their reputations have to be at rock bottom around the league.

[Brutalis]

Timmy. He didn't deserved to be treated as he was.

[TheTruth23]

Manu, cuz he sucks, is a flopper, and a reckless player. manu for not listening to coach pop, NO FOUL, idiot.

[spurschick]

Manu, cuz he sucks, is a flopper, and a reckless player. manu for not listening to coach pop, NO FOUL, idiot.

Wow, I'm surprised it took you so long to post in this thread.

[ALVAREZ6]

Yes, I agree with you on this completely. The players also know that it's just a game...it's win or lose...it's not life or death like it is for some really obsessive fans who built their lives around their favorite team. Also players know that loosing is just as much part of the game as winning is. It's really hard to win a championship...the players know that but life is also about so much more than basketball. And their salary is huge. They get paid for doing something they truly love. There are so many people who would LOVE to be in their shoes. And there are a ton of great players, such as Allen Iverson who play their heart out but never even win ONE championship...

So yes, I definitely see what you're saying...Plus these guys have families and friends, as well as a luxurious life...So basketball is not all that they have...

But fans depend on their favorite teams. They spend money on buying their jerseys, expensive tickets, etc...and their time watching the games on tv...So yes, the loss is truly hard on the die-hard fans, too.

Excellent post. Finally, that's the response that I was hoping to get. A real and true honenst opinion. So thank you for responding in such a polite and intelligent manner. I appreciate that.

Thanks for agreeing with me, I expected someone to give me for posting that saying I'm a ing re .

[v2freak]

TD. His OT performance wasn't the greatest, and he knows he missed two chances to win a game before OT