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Now I know that ALL the Spurs players, fans, and the coach are disappointed that they lost to Dallas. All the Spurs players are obviously sad about it. But what I'm wondering is who do you guys think suffered the most from this loss?
Here is my 2 cents:
I don't think Timmy is too hurt by it because he had 41 points and he always says that as long as he KNOWS that he put his VERY best effort into the game, he can't be too upset. Plus he has THREE championships...and THREE MVP awards for the Finals...He has just turned 30 and has a LONG contract with the Spurs. So I have NO doubt that he will win at least a few more championships in the future...
I don't think Tony is too upset either because he already has TWO championship and he is VERY young still. He has the LONGEST contract with the Spurs and is bound t to win a lot more championships in the future. He's, afterall, only 24 years old...
Horry already has SIX championships...and he was not really used as much in this Dallas series, anyway...Yes, he is getting older and no one knows if he'll retire soon...so this might have been his last shot...BUT anyone would be happy to have SIX wins already!!!
Manu...Yes, very upset BECAUSE he feels that it's mainly his fault as to why he lost...because of the stupid foul on Dirk...BUT he has TWO championships, an Olympic gold medal, a bunch of European medals...AND he is not even 30 yet...he will DEFINITELY win more championships...He has a long contract with the Spurs and a high paying contract...But I don't think he suffered too much with the loss...
Pop- one of the few coaches to even win THREE championships. He knew that it was a toss up...He even said "flip a coin"...so I don't think this loss will hurt too much for him...As long as he keeps his coaching job on the Spurs, he'll win at least a few more championships...
SO I'd say the following TWO people are the most who suffered because of it:
Bruce-Yes, he has TWO championships BUT he's almost 35 years old...He has two more years in his contract to the Spurs, with the 2007-2008 partially guaranteed...So his chances to win another championship with the Spurs are not as high as Manu, Tony, or Timmy...If the Spurs don't win in the next two years, Bruce might not get his third championship because he might already retire by the time Spurs win another one...So in his case, because he might retire soon, this might have been his LAST chance to win another one...
BUT he has a very optimistic personality. He loves life. He is very funny...He has a wife and a newborn son. It's obvious by a recent interview that he'll be totally okay about this loss...He knows that life is like this sometimes. And he knows that he should be very thankful for what he has. As most don't know, he grew up to a mother who was a drug addict and a father who was an alcoholic...And he was basically raised by a surrogate family who took great care of him. So he'll be fine! BUT I just wish that the Spurs did win it this year so that Bruce can have another one before he retires...
Let's hope for next season....
Michael Finley- OUCH...is all I can say right now...Not only was he constantly booed every time he TOUCHED the ball, he was also punched in the groin by his old Dallas teammate...Fans brought cruel posters making fun of Michael, calling him "Mic e"...He just lost to his old team...He was basically kicked out of Dallas due to the contractural issues...He NEVER won even one championship and has played for the NBA for 8 seasons already. He's also in his thirties...So I'd imagine that he will retire really soon, too. He might NEVER win ONE championship, period...Especially if Dallas wins this year's championship, which I highly doubt they will, it will be like a dagger to his heart!
Once again, let's hope for next season's win...
I did not mention the following people: Barry, Nazr, Rasho, Beno, Nick, etc...because fraknly, since they did not really participate in the Dallas series, I don't think any one of them truly has anything to say about it nor should we feel bad for either one of them...
What's your take on this? Can Bowen and Finley win one more before they both retire? Who do you think suffered the most from the loss?
Last edited by greenleo; 05-25-2006 at 07:40 PM.
Tim Duncan
Probably Finley. But its okay he will get his ring next year next to Tim Duncan.
i have to go with finley as well. losing to the mavs is probably what hurt him the most. if it was any other team he would probably have been upset but not to this degree.
TD because he missed shots at the end of regulation in both OT games. Either would have won the series for SA.
Finley
Finley, without a doubt. Manu a not-so-distant second.
True, but if Manu hadn't fouled Dirk, there would have been no need for Duncan to make the shot at the end of Game 7...Plus TD did everything he could, especially in Game 7 cuz he did score 41 points...By the time, there were a few seconds left before OT, he was out of fuel...totally exhausted and let's not forget his foot issue...
I guess what I'm thinking is the chances for certain players to win more championships...And for Tony, Manu, and Timmy, those chances are HUGE...their contracts are very long...I can't imagine them not winning at least once with their long contracts...
I guess my concerns were for the older players such as Finley and Bowen, who might retire very soon and not get the chance to win another one. Horry is on the list too, but come on, the guy has SIX of them! lol...So i'm not too concerned about him although it would be awesome if he were to have a record number of 7 wins...more than Michael Jordan, for instance...
Either way, Timmy did all he could...
I guess some things are not meant to be at certain times. Did you guys notice that when the score is above 100 points, Spurs lose most of the time? And how about how they keep winning in odd years? And the fact that they were never able to win two in a row? lol...It's like the Spurs have a certain routine that they follow...like Manu's mistake on Dirk cost them the game, and Fisher's shot cost them the game in 2004...It's like the Spurs are meant to be completely devastated by one crazy shot or one bad mental mistake...and then they are meant to come back in an odd year right after and win the championship...lol...then they the cycle continues with them not being able to repeat...
Big Shot Brob.
finley for sure.
finleyn and manu tied
Fin and Manu neck and neck.
Timmy not too far behind. That guy's will to win runs deep. We just dont see it often because of his on-court demeanor.
NVE ... No Ringz..
Nazr... the 3 pointer that put him in the PermaPop Doghouse
Brent... close but no cigar
I think Finley suffered the most. I mean Dallas cut him, he comes to the Spurs for a le shot and the team that cuts him beats him. While I do believe Manu is suffering he has been there, he already has two rings. I have also not seen anyone mention VanX (I was typing this when Vashner posted), he came here for the same reasons and will probably retire without a ring.
True, Van Excel and Finley did come here mainly to win a championship...BUT I mean you truly have to work for it, you can't just come to a team that is already so strong and expect to not do much and then win a championship...I'm referring to Nick, of course...Truthfully, I don't feel that Nick did enough for us this season to deserve a win with us...
Finley, yes, he did more than enough to deserve a win with us...He fought like crazy! But there is always next year. And if you notice, what I love about Spurs, is their kindness and class. Some people might join in order to win a ring, but end up staying even after not winning it because of the character of all the Spurs players. Finley talked about how he wanted to win the ring with the Spurs BUT how he is very happy to play with the Spurs because they are just a group of nice guys...period...he's happy here...
If you remember when Horry signed in 2004, a similar situation had happened, because the Spurs lost to his old team, Lakers, by that shot by Fisher...But Horry still signed for next year even though he could have gone anywhere else...And he said that he stayed with this team because, "I LOVE these guys. I'm very happy. I hadn't been this happy in a LONG time. In a lot of cases, you like your teammates, but you don't like your coach. Or you like your coach, but you don't like your teammates. In this case, I like everyone."...Seems like Horry either did not really like his Laker teammates or he could not stand his coach, Phill...lol...You have to wonder...I mean he did win three rings with the Lakers, and he expressed that he still was not that happy with them...At this time, he had no rings with the Spurs, and yet, he said that he was very happy...
I just love the atmosphere that the Spurs players, fans, coaches, organization has...Everyone who comes here loves it here...and is happy...First Horry, now Finley...
And you could see it. Did you see the recent interviews of Pop, Bowen, and Finley. Pop said that Manu "is the stud of the world" and that he'd go anywhere with him...just touching stuff...I mean I could so imagine Phill Jackson being pissed as heck at Manu for his last play...lol...but not Pop...and certaintly not Manu's teammates who LOVE him...I like what Bowen said about Manu, "he has done a lot for us...we LOVE him here. And he understands that. And when you know that you have those who love you and support you...you just feel like you completely let them down...and that's not what he's about." I just love this stuff..it shows that what this team has is very rare, it's called unconditional love and support regardless of what mistakes you make...I'm sure that if Kobe or Vince Carter were Manu's teammates, you would not hear them say that they 'love' him after his mistake on court...they probably would have been majorly pissed at him...
MANU...MANU...did I say....MANU?
As good as Ginobili is, he acted like a damn rook this post season. He has to definitely work on his ball handling skills and court awareness.
He made three critical turnovers that were costly. Hope that haunts him all summer so that he knows that making a great play on one end of the floor does not equate into making a bonehead play on the other end.
Sometimes playing intelligently is just as good as making the ESPN highlight reel.
True, but Manu still has many years ahead to win more and more championships...Can't really say the same for Finley and Bowen(in his case, they better give him a long contract if he does not want to retire anytime soon...i'd hate for him to play on another team!)...
And yes, just like basketball is also about luck, talent, athleticsm, courage, teamwork, it's also about INTELLIGENCE and playing the SMART way...I think BOTH Manu AND Tony, who also has the tendency to make mistakes...think back to fourth quarter last year when he fouled a Piston in the last few seconds...LOL...thank god, our lead was more than 5 points at that point...even Pop could not believe why Tony would foul! lol...Tony and Manu need to learn how to play the game not only with passion but BY using your brain and intelligence once in a while. They are amazing players but just do not have enough wisdom yet...They should follow Timmy and Bowen because they use their heads a great deal during the game...Bowen TIMED both the Chauncey and the Dirk blocks...that takes not only athletism but intelligence....
It hurts Tim the worst because in a few years its gonna be the Lebron/Cleveland show.
Nazr.
Why? Because they might get traded? If that happens, Rasho and Nazr still have the 2005 win with the Spurs...
Tim, Finley, and Manu.
Tim, well, he just in dominated, and suprisingly lost.
Finley...he left the Mavs to do something elese, rather than getting beat by his old team.
Manu, I'm pretty sure everyone knows why.
Ummm, anyone who doesn't think the loss sucked for everyone on this team hasn't played a lick of compe ive sports in their life
right, but the thread says which Spurs players suffered the most.Ummm, anyone who doesn't think the loss sucked for everyone on this team hasn't played a lick of compe ive sports in their life
It sucked for all the team
then go to another thread...
First of all, my le said what this thread is about in the first place...second I actually thought that the Spurs fans are kind and generous people who don't insult others and call other people's reasons for something "re ed"...that's just childish mentality...
and second, thanks to another person who pointed out that this is thread that discuses which player suffered the MOST...I know that the Spurs play as a TEAM, hence whether they win or lose, they do it together..
Third, back to you calling my reasons "re ed"...Yes, Rasho and Nazr did not get the chance to play but I don't think it means they suffered the most or anything to that effect. And as for me saying that both these players might be traded and hence, this was possibly their last shot to win another championship, that's what I was saying...I don't think my thinking is "re ed" at all...Anyway, thanks for making me realize that there are plenty of annoying Spurs fans, too...good job...
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