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    TiMVP fizer is 6-8, JR Smith is 6-6.

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    Fizer is shorter than JR Smith. There's no way I want him even on the Spurs summer league team. Last thing the Spurs need is a PF who is slow, can't rebound and too short to guard the post.
    I don't know if he's shorter than JR Smith but he's definitely not the 6'9/6'10 athletic forward I was thinking of the Spurs acquiring.

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    I've never thought of Fizer as someone who can hit the 3. In his NBA games, he's like 20/110 or something.

    Did he shoot a lot of 3's (or even long 2's) in Austin?
    17-53 (.321) from the arc and more than a few long twos. I'm not saying he's Dirk, just that he has more range than some other candidates.

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    Dayum Timvp so that means getting Charles Smith out of retirement is not an option??? lol

    How about Charles Barkley...he looks like he can still back his ass up; even if it is to a Dos XX keg!! lol

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    Smith's a guy who you could throw out there to match up with a guy like Terry no problem.

    He's not the answer to the long three riddle though.

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    Last thing the Spurs need is a PF who is slow, can't rebound and too short to guard the post.
    Yeah, the minimum is the minimum though - it's not like he has a Scola sized buyout (boy, you described Luis to a T there).

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    17-53 (.321) from the arc and more than a few long twos. I'm not saying he's Dirk, just that he has more range than some other candidates.
    Interesting.

    You are right, he was a monster after he got cut by Seattle. I know those numbers in themselves will get him on someone's summer league team. Do you know if NO has any rights to him at all? (I don't see that they do .. but I don't see that Seattle has rights to Noel.)
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    Fizer is your prototypical non-NBA baller. Outside of the NBA world, short power forwards dominate. In the NBA, they suck 99.9% of the time.

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    NOLA doesn't have any rights to Fizer other than the ability to give him a little more than the minimum w/o using an exception - I don't think they hold an option. He's not really on my list for the Spurs, but he could come off the bench somewhere.

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    I've got the answer........NOEL FELIX!!!!

    Kori, could he be capable of filling the position we're talking?

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    I saw alot of Fizer in Austin. Officially he's an unrestricted free agent and should be able to be had for the minimum. He got faster after he dropped about 10 pounds during his stay with the Sonics, but he's still not very athletic. Not a great rebounder but can rack up alot every once in awhile. One thing he does have over alot of the guys we're considering is his range - he can even hit a few threes and would fit more easily into a set alongside Duncan than some of the others.
    Didn't CHI, MIL, and NOK all dump him because of his lackadaisical D and slow feet? He seems like a combination of Maurice Taylor and Clarence Weatherspoon, a PF who actually isn't all that "powerful" and doesn't like to get physical in the post, and a guy with cement feet and a 1-inch vertical. At best he's another Melvin Ely.

    And are you sure about his 3-point range? With Austin, he only took 53 attempts which is kind of a small sample size but he ended up with a nice % regardless. However, not including last year when he only played 3 games, he's 20-119 in 3-pt shooting over 5 years in the NBA. That's about 20 attempts a season which isn't that much. Has he had 3-point shooting range all along and just never really had a chance to show it playing a post position or did he really work on it down in the NBDL?

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    I've got the answer........NOEL FELIX!!!!

    Kori, could he be capable of filling the position we're talking?
    Of course I'll say yes. He's 6'9, 240, more athletic than anyone on the Spurs, a good shot blocker, busy extending his shooting range ... but he's contractually obligated to the Sonics.

    He'll be on their summer league team and in their training camp. He's unguaranteed with them but he can't talk to other teams.

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    Fizer has to be one of the biggest busts ever, the dude was the 4th pick overall and after 5 years in the league is playing D League ball, that said he'd be nice if we go small. Can you Imagine a line up of parker, gino, fin, "long 3", and fizer?

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    I'll take my bow now....you can pay for dinner next season!! lol

    Now that we've solved this issue, how bout we solve the Atlanta Hawks dismal problem of even having a team!! lol

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    a PF who actually isn't all that "powerful" and doesn't like to get physical in the post, and a guy with cement feet and a 1-inch vertical.
    wrong on the first two, right on the second two.
    And are you sure about his 3-point range?
    What's to be sure about? - I was there at all the home games. He took 53 3s in 35 games and numerous 15-20 footers depending on the D he faced. I don't remember ever saying he's our next Robert Horry, just that he has more range than alot of the guys we are considering. That's of no small importance when playing with Duncan.

    Again, he's not really on my short list, but could I see him taking Sean Marks' place? Of course.

    The biggest knock on Fizer is he was picked too high by his college coach.

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    What the Spurs need is true athleticism at the 3/4 position. Not just for handling match up scenarios with teams like Dallas/Phoenix, but for creating their own mismatch issues.

    If I had RC and Sam Presti's ear, I'd be looking at some of the 'lower' bench players from other teams who may fit that criteria. Even with Felix, the Spurs may be able to find diamond in the lumps of coal that fit their bill or at least gives them a chance to develop that player into something they want.

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    Yeah, Noel was really the guy we needed - I couldn't have pimped him and Chuck Hayes much more than I did last year. Maybe those know-nothings in the Spurs' FO will listen to me now.

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    lol.....

    Chump Dumpster for GM!! or at least unofficial Spurs president of talent evaluation!! lol

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    One thing good about Noel is that he's always been a good defender in the post, but now he's actually advancing to be a good on the ball defender too. Lately he's been averaging 4 steals per game in his scrimmages.

    Oh well.

    Back to JR Smith ...

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    How much money the Spurs gonna have to work with? Im really likin Tim Thomas!!

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    wow, any chance seattle lets this Noel fellow go...if so, then at what cost?

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    JR who?

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    How much money the Spurs gonna have to work with? Im really likin Tim Thomas!!
    They will just have the MLE and LLE (about 5M and 2M).

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    Now Thomas would be nice but I think he'll stay in Phoenix.

    He fits their style of play.

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    wow, any chance seattle lets this Noel fellow go...if so, then at what cost?
    Minimum. He's still a raw young player.

    And they'll cut him if they don't have roster space for him or he bombs in the summer/preseason. That's what they did last season -- they had no space for him. They contemplated cutting Rick Brunson to keep him but Brunson was guaranteeed. So they cut Noel. Then they regreted it all year and got Noel back after they traded Radmanovic, etc and freed up a roster space.

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