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    Brent Barry for J.R. Smith.

    do you still pull the plug on this, if its still offered in the off-season?
    do you try to package a deal with the Hornets?

    this is their roster...

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    33 Brandon Bass F 6-8 240 04/30/1985 Louisiana State R
    42 P.J. Brown - C C 6-11 239 10/14/1969 Louisiana Tech 12
    45 Rasual Butler F 6-7 205 05/23/1979 La Salle 3
    5 Speedy Claxton G 5-11 170 05/08/1978 Hofstra 4
    21 Marcus Fizer F 6-8 260 08/10/1978 Iowa State 5
    44 Marc Jackson C-F 6-10 253 01/16/1975 Temple 5
    43 Linton Johnson III F 6-8 225 06/13/1980 Tulane 2
    6 Arvydas Macijauskas G 6-4 214 01/19/1980 Lithuania R
    24 Desmond Mason F 6-5 222 10/11/1977 Oklahoma State 5
    25 Moochie Norris G 6-1 185 07/27/1973 West Florida 8
    3 Chris Paul G 6-0 175 05/06/1985 Wake Forest R
    23 J.R. Smith G 6-6 220 09/09/1985 St. Benedict's Prep (Newark, NJ) 1
    1 Kirk Snyder G 6-6 225 06/05/1983 Nevada-Reno 1
    30 David West F 6-9 240 08/29/1980 Xavier (Ohio) 2
    34 Aaron Williams C-F 6-9 235 10/02/1971 Xavier (Ohio) 11

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    I'm not impressed with Smith. I'd rather try to get Claxton. Heck I'd even take LJ III again.

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    I'll do it in a NY min.

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    I'm not impressed with Smith. I'd rather try to get Claxton. Heck I'd even take LJ III again.

    He's only 20 hit a good percentage from 3pt land, is athletic. Only can go up.

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    I'm not impressed with Smith. I'd rather try to get Claxton. Heck I'd even take LJ III again.
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    nbascribe, the only beef i have with JR smith is his relationship with byron scott. he was upset about the reduced minutes he was getting and if he comes to SA he will be in the same situation. hes a young kid who is mesmerized by the glitz and glamour of lots of playing time, starter money, commercial spots etc. he as MASSIVE potential though and thats an upside. LJIII didnt work out and iam sure if he was worth keeping the spurs would have kept him on the IL.

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    Smith's defense is suspect and I don't trust his shot selection. don't know if he's disciplined enough to make a good play in an offense like the Spurs.

    Heck we see Barry is gun shy... could be worse with Smith because he is so young.

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    JR Smith is too short to be considered the "Long 3" that everyone is coveting. But he'd be a work-in-progress backup swingman that could work out.

    Regarding his relationship with Scott, Scott has a hard time with some young players (i.e. Stephen Jackson) but Smith still concerns me in that regard. There's a lot of noise about how he just doesn't show up to practices, or shows up when they are almost over and doesn't even apologize, etc.

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    how about marcus fizer? the guy was a lottery pick but never really fit well in chicago. hes got the size and body that we are looking for. no good?

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    I don't really care that much if JR sucks - Barry will be off the books and JR costs 1/4 as much.

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    how about marcus fizer? the guy was a lottery pick but never really fit well in chicago. hes got the size and body that we are looking for. no good?
    He did really well in the DLeague this year. He's a big body with a bad injury history but someone will give him a chance -- he put up monster number in DLeague. ChumpDumper saw a lot of him and will give you some insight.

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    I don't really care that much if JR sucks - Barry will be off the books and JR costs 1/4 as much.
    I agree about that. I just don't know if JR is what some people here expect him to be.

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    JR Smith is too short to be considered the "Long 3" that everyone is coveting. But he'd be a work-in-progress backup swingman that could work out.

    Regarding his relationship with Scott, Scott has a hard time with some young players (i.e. Stephen Jackson) but Smith still concerns me in that regard. There's a lot of noise about how he just doesn't show up to practices, or shows up when they are almost over and doesn't even apologize, etc.

    I don't think anybody considers him the long three, he's only 6'6. I just think about getting younger and more athletic. I think he's worth a shot.

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    SSK i think for this franchise that we love, they are looking for consumate professionals and not projects. Fizer didn't impress me either. As for my comments on Smith, I'm almost echoing Kori's take. Next to Chris Andersen, Smith was a major pain in the ass for the Hornets. He thinks he's all world and he's not.

    If he could come off of cloud 12 in his world and realize that he has an opportunity, I think he may fit; if the Spurs were inclined.

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    JR Smith, in the Spurs system, would be very good. He has the best range of any player I've ever seen coming out of high school. Add in his run/jump skills and he'd be a vital member of the core for years to come.

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    how about marcus fizer? the guy was a lottery pick but never really fit well in chicago. hes got the size and body that we are looking for. no good?
    I saw alot of Fizer in Austin. Officially he's an unrestricted free agent and should be able to be had for the minimum. He got faster after he dropped about 10 pounds during his stay with the Sonics, but he's still not very athletic. Not a great rebounder but can rack up alot every once in awhile. One thing he does have over alot of the guys we're considering is his range - he can even hit a few threes and would fit more easily into a set alongside Duncan than some of the others.

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    Sticking to he needs to come off of cloud 12 in his world.

    As talented as he COULD BE, his damn ego and work ethic give me major issues.

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    i think people are intruiged by him because hes a dunker. hes a flashy player who brings hype to the offense. makes the games more enjoyable because you never know when he might break out for a dunk. like i said above about his current role which he is unhappy with, he might feel the same way if he ends up here.

    i remember most people were excited about getting JR smith for brent barry. just wondered if people still feel the same way now.

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    Chump I think we may see him in the summer league this year. I think Fizer needs to drop another 10 pounds though. Something about the round mound of hostess twinkees don't fit with a basketball player.

    if he drops the extra pounds, he may improve in the athleticism and shooting categories. I wonder what a good summer working on footwork would do for him?

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    Chump, fizers ability to hit the three might be vital for when we play the mavs. it would keep dirk off the boards if fizer can keep him on the perimeter.

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    I've never thought of Fizer as someone who can hit the 3. In his NBA games, he's like 20/110 or something.

    Did he shoot a lot of 3's (or even long 2's) in Austin?

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    One thing we can't rely on is if we play the Mavs next season. for all we know, that team might be changing and we might be changing.

    As close as the Spurs were against the Mavs, it is hard to imagine that a few extra rebounds would help. If anything, if Tim played really aggressive in the last seconds of regulation or if the bench really played like they did against Sacramento, things could have been different. But that's would have, could have, should have talk.

    What the Spurs definitely need more than anything is youth and stability. Whether that's Smith, Fizer or somebody out of the draft or free agency is anyone's guess right now.

    Ahhh the perils of being a successful NBA franchise these days.

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    What the Spurs definitely need more than anything is youth and stability. Whether that's Smith, Fizer or somebody out of the draft or free agency is anyone's guess right now.

    Ahhh the perils of being a successful NBA franchise these days.
    Well Fizer isn't exactly young. He's 28 or so and has a bad injury history. I'm not saying that he won't help someone. I'm just thinking he's probably not what the Spurs are looking for. (But who knows)

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    Chump I think we may see him in the summer league this year. I think Fizer needs to drop another 10 pounds though. Something about the round mound of hostess twinkees don't fit with a basketball player.

    if he drops the extra pounds, he may improve in the athleticism and shooting categories. I wonder what a good summer working on footwork would do for him?
    When he came back from Seattle he was playing at an entirely different level, scoring like 37 ppg. I'd have no problem taking him on for the minimum because he seems like he could play with or without Duncan on the floor and he had no problems with his knees this year. I don't know exactly how much more weight he cold lose, but he certainly responded to the Sonics' conditioning program. He wouldn't be a perfect fit, but few minimum players would.

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    Fizer is shorter than JR Smith. There's no way I want him even on the Spurs summer league team. Last thing the Spurs need is a PF who is slow, can't rebound and too short to guard the post.

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