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    No kidding. But it seems that has changed in the Phoenix series. It seems Marion and others are blocking Dirk's shots hard and nothing is called. Phoenix is doing things that if done half by Spurs were whistled.
    Well, that's not exactly Pop's fault then, is it?

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    Get over it already, Pop ain't going nowhere, he is still wearing Peter Holt's Kneepads.
    true but someone needs to give him a link to Spurstalk.com

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    No kidding. But it seems that has changed in the Phoenix series. It seems Marion and others are blocking Dirk's shots hard and nothing is called. Phoenix is doing things that if done half by Spurs were whistled.
    What pisses me off is that last night Dirk was bumping Nash on drives with impunity. Same was getting called against the Spurs whenever Dirk or Harris would go to the basket. Barbosa was getting bumped too.

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    Well, that's not exactly Pop's fault then, is it?

    I wasn't blaming Pop. I was making a side point.

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    Popovich used to be the best coach in the league.

    Avery Johnson PWNED him so badly I wouldn't be surprised if Pop's wine collection all turned to vinegar.

    So I guess Pop is #2 now.

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    This isnt a fire POP thread just cause he made a mistake against Dallas, doesn't mean he should go, it's just a little annoying when he refuses to do things and makes excuses for them that they would never work. He is just a tad hard headed dont you think?

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    What pisses me off is that last night Dirk was bumping Nash on drives with impunity. Same was getting called against the Spurs whenever Dirk or Harris would go to the basket. Barbosa was getting bumped too.
    It's all created drama. I'll do my Karnak immitation: Phoenix wins the next game. Ooo, the drama. People are going to catch on eventually, and only tune in for game 5 and beyond, and the NBA will be stuck with ty ratings again.

    LET THEM PLAY.

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    This isnt a fire POP thread just cause he made a mistake against Dallas, doesn't mean he should go, it's just a little annoying when he refuses to do things and makes excuses for them that they would never work. He is just a tad hard headed dont you think?
    I've always like the hard headedness about him. He is loose but he expects great things from his players. Pop yelling at Tony is an example. However, he just can't get it through his head that sometimes what he is doing is wrong. P. J is a good x's and o's guy. Is pop ignoring him or not listening to his advice. I don't know. Making adjustment is in an NBA coach's job description

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    I want one guy who says Rasho or Nazr should have been in to tell me who was going to guard Dirk and how? Horry couldn't stay in front of Dirk. Duncan couldn't stay in front of Dirk. Do you think Rasho or NAzr could?
    The bottom line is we'll never know because Pop never tried.

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    The bottom line is we'll never know because Pop never tried.


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    I still don't get the blame Pop game. Manu makes his drive and if Timmy makes the put back we win game seven.

    I'd still take Pop over Avery any day of the week.

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    I completely understand the blame Pop game. He doesn't make adjustments. That is what you are supposed to do in playoffs when you lose a game. He always says in interviews "lets stick with it"-let me ask you all something: do you stick with something that isn't working? NO. That is completely simple logic. Pop's always messing with lineups as well. I think a lot of us forget how much we yell at Pop when we lose in the regular season. He holds us back. What I've noticed about him is that he has to have everything perfect-and he's so stubborn that he will not change anything. Several times I have seen Ginobili make a great play and bring us back, and then Pop takes him out because that's what he normally does. WTF. Also, telling Parker to shoot 20 + shots a game killed us. Parker was great this season, but we need his assists, and when he had off games he did NOT stop shooting. That hurt us. He tried to do too much at times. Also, in overtime of Game 7, why on earth do you not go to Ginobili? And in fourth quarters, the whole damn three quarters before that Duncan hardly touches it and has no rhythm, and then in the fourth quarter every play is 4-down. Pop doesn't make good choices. He's a good coach, but I bet there is a coach out there who can utilize our team better than he does.

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    Of course. Every coach is different. I could see if the Spurs got blown out every game but they didn't and again, it wasn't Pop who missed the shots or made the foul or made the turnover.

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    Agreed, but I think he makes some very poor decisions that hurt us bad. But he does draw up some very good plays in the clutch.

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    Dallas having a 7-foot player who can play out on the floor at both ends was the problem for the Spurs. That's why when Dallas plays Diop and Nowitzki together, they have two rebounding Bigs but they also have the effectiveness of 1 Big and 4 perimeter guys. When the Spurs played Tim and Nazr together, they had 2 Bigs and 3 perimeter guys at both ends. Dirk went out on the floor and made the Spurs pay with shots or fouls. Horry wasn't the rebounder Dirk is and he isn't as mobile as Dirk is. That's a problem.

    Against PHX, Dallas is getting away with playing Diop and Dirk together because D'Antoni isn't exploiting the Diop on Diaw matchup like he should. Diop is smart on his switches and he's sagging. Diaw isn't nailing the shots from the outside and making Diop pay. When PHX runs and Dallas cross-matches, Diop either zones or picks up the next biggest guy, usually cross-matching with Marion. Still, PHX isn't exploiting that matchup either. Therefore, AJ looks like a genius.

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    Pop has never been great at making in-series adjustments. When Phil Jackson used to do it to him it usually took Pop the following off-season after losing the series to 'adjust', and that was usually by way of roster changes, not any profound x's and o's move.

    All Avery had to do was tweak his starting lineup twice and it overloaded simulator crew's circuits.
    Yeah, what was Pop thinking? He should have followed your game plan from the last thread to leave Dirk wide open on the perimeter all series long.

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    Their are too many POP apologists here, I love my SPURS and I can say that as much as he doesn't thinks so, POP is wrong sometimes.I think his stubborness to stay small hurt our team.I dont think small is gonna win Championships and everyone is getting carried Away with this notion that the league is changing and we better change along with them. The best teams are the ones that play solid ''D'' and they win championships.

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    Yeah, what was Pop thinking? He should have followed your game plan from the last thread to leave Dirk wide open on the perimeter all series long.

    Dirk on the pereimeter is better than Dirk at the hoop.

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    Dirk on the pereimeter is better than Dirk at the hoop.
    Dirk on the perimeter is what beat us. He had occasional drives, which rarely resulted in a basket but got him to the line, but 75% of his damage was done with his jumper. I don't think he had anything that hit the rim that didn't go in.

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    I'm not apologizing for Pop, I just don't think he's the main reason the Spurs lost.
    But I could be wrong.

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    Pop did a remarkable job of coaching keeping the Spurs in the series given the talent he had and the matchups that he was forced to deal with. Dallas simply had more depth and flexibility. No big surprise when you're outspent by 50%. Diop was a coup for Dallas too.

    Again, you want to fault him fault him as a GM. He's been slow in adjusting to the new rules, the way they effect the game and the personell required. He put his backup PG eggs in Van Exel's basket, maybe that was required to get Finley to sign. Spurs' frontoffice is living off the glory of getting Manu and Parker but what have they done lately?

    Pop and Buford have some adjusting to do to make the matchups with Dallas and Phoenix next year and another set of matchup problems with Houston if they can stay healthy and add a tad of talent.

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    Some of you don't get it.

    The playing Nazr/Rasho thing isn't about shutting down. It's about taking away all those points in the paint that Dallas got in our series. Terry, Harris, and Howard were running lay up drills all series long with Horry and Bowen playing PF.

    I'll trade anyone taking jumpers for the layup fest that was the Mavs series, not to mention all the damn offensive rebounds Dallas got.

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    Some of you don't get it. We didn't match up. You can conjecture all you want, but if you think that Nazr Mohammed could stop my grandmother from making a layup, let alone defend Dirk AND stop my grandmother, you're imbibing magic mushrooms.

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    Some of you don't get it.

    The playing Nazr/Rasho thing isn't about shutting down. It's about taking away all those points in the paint that Dallas got in our series. Terry, Harris, and Howard were running lay up drills all series long with Horry and Bowen playing PF.

    I'll trade anyone taking jumpers for the layup fest that was the Mavs series, not to mention all the damn offensive rebounds Dallas got.
    Hey, why contest any jumpers at all? We can have everyone stand around the edge of the paint and play Red Rover, while one of the best jump shooting teams in the NBA gets their pick of the shots.

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    Sorry about that loss to Dallas. You guys deserved the le the most (besides the Heat). I was looking forward to the Heat facing you guys in the finals. The Spurs had a great run and had a tough break. Just so you know, the Heat will take down the Pistons this year.

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