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    Avery outcoached POP big time after seeing Avery go to Diop and Dirk together even though the Suns were small made a big difference he was able to defend the basket and get key rebounds. I wonder what a Rasho or Nazr might have done?

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    popovich blows

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    I wonder what a Rasho or Nazr might have done?
    Allowed Dirk to score 70. That would have been in one half, and it would have been BOTH of them, and they would have both fouled out.

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    Diop had actually played a few minutes earlier that game, and in earlier games, so wasn't stone cold dead the way DNPCD Rasho and Nazr were. So Diop was actually ready to go a few minutes in OT, while Rasho and Nazr weren't.

    Pop instransigent insistence of going small ball all the way is subject of an eternal debate. I tend to think Pop is not very good at effective in-game adaptations, even though he seems to play musical rotations with several players in and out for short-minute stretches in some insame matchup dance.

    Pop was pretty hamstrung with Robert/Rasho/Nazr sucking badly these playoffs. Big challenge for Pop, and he didn't seem to be up to it.

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    The Chosen One redskinfan's Avatar
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    Allowed Dirk to score 70. That would have been in one half, and it would have been BOTH of them, and they would have both fouled out.
    You know thats what Amare did last year and we handled them pretty well I just think they would have handled the interior a little better POP < Avery right now

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    Diop didnt even play game 1 and they lost that one!

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    People who think that Nazr and Rasho could have done jack in the Mavs - Spurs series gotta make you wonder.

    If you want to say Pop ed up then say he ed up as a GM by masturbating over Kidd and letting Howard slide by. By not going after Varejao in the draft which would have been the key to handling Dirk. By being so in love with smart vets that he let the teams' athleticism slide.

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    Pop has never been great at making in-series adjustments. When Phil Jackson used to do it to him it usually took Pop the following off-season after losing the series to 'adjust', and that was usually by way of roster changes, not any profound x's and o's move.

    All Avery had to do was tweak his starting lineup twice and it overloaded simulator crew's circuits.

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    You know thats what Amare did last year and we handled them pretty well I just think they would have handled the interior a little better POP < Avery right now
    Show me the link to the box score where Amare scored 70 last year. Amare, despite his prodigious atheltic gifts, is actually rather limited offensively. Comparing the offensive threats posed by Amare and Dirk is just foolish. Dirk is MILES better and more versatile as an offensive threat.

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    I want one guy who says Rasho or Nazr should have been in to tell me who was going to guard Dirk and how? Horry couldn't stay in front of Dirk. Duncan couldn't stay in front of Dirk. Do you think Rasho or NAzr could? Did you want to see Dirk blowing by those two and getting to the basket where Dunacn would pick up six fouls in the first quarter trying to cover for those stiffs? I have yet to hear anybody come up with a plausible formula for that. Only and moan about small ball. Fact is if Barry had done jack and given the Spurs some points and rest for the main six Spurs would be in the WCFs.

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    I don't blame it on Pop but the players not making the crucial shots down the stretch.
    Pop has my vote of confidence.

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    Dirk scored 50 and the Mavs still lost. To Golden State. At the AAC.

    I still don't buy that Dirk can beat you by himself.

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    Show me the link to the box score where Amare scored 70 last year. Amare, despite his prodigious atheltic gifts, is actually rather limited offensively. Comparing the offensive threats posed by Amare and Dirk is just foolish. Dirk is MILES better and more versatile as an offensive threat.
    Hey Idiot that is a exaggeration these Idiots including yourself seem to think that having Rasho or Nazr meant that Dirk would have gone crazy and I said that Amare did that last year and It didn't bother uthe Spurs that much (4-2)I think that once you get off of POP's Jock you might actually see that I am right we got outcoached period.

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    Look who Diop is guarding Thomas and Diaw they are much quicker but he does change their shots and gets rebounds right???

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    I want one guy who says Rasho or Nazr should have been in to tell me who was going to guard Dirk and how? Horry couldn't stay in front of Dirk. Duncan couldn't stay in front of Dirk. Do you think Rasho or NAzr could? Did you want to see Dirk blowing by those two and getting to the basket where Dunacn would pick up six fouls in the first quarter trying to cover for those stiffs? I have yet to hear anybody come up with a plausible formula for that. Only and moan about small ball. Fact is if Barry had done jack and given the Spurs some points and rest for the main six Spurs would be in the WCFs.
    I still think you blame playing all small ball a little. I agree with all the quote's points, but just by sheer numbers of not playing Nazr and Rasho (even for just 5 minutes) and severly limiting Horry, you just plain wore out and/or got key players into foul trouble by having no bench.

    But also true Barry needs to be cut loose he and his wife's community service notwithstanding. He's made a couple big shots but all in all misses way too many big shots when needed and makes a lot of mistakes (2 TO's in final minutes Game 4 (3?), etc.

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    I want one guy who says Rasho or Nazr should have been in to tell me who was going to guard Dirk and how? Horry couldn't stay in front of Dirk. Duncan couldn't stay in front of Dirk. Do you think Rasho or NAzr could? Did you want to see Dirk blowing by those two and getting to the basket where Dunacn would pick up six fouls in the first quarter trying to cover for those stiffs? I have yet to hear anybody come up with a plausible formula for that. Only and moan about small ball. Fact is if Barry had done jack and given the Spurs some points and rest for the main six Spurs would be in the WCFs.

    you know Duncan could guard him and do a decent job while the other big could stay on Damp or Diop and defend the lane, but it's too late now SPURS got outcoached and are on vacation

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    GS beat Dallas twice. When Dirk scored 50 and GS won Mavs had no Harris or Howard. GS did beat Dallas with small ball using Murphy as their primary big..

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    you know Duncan could guard him and do a decent job while the other big could stay on Damp or Diop and defend the lane, but it's too late now SPURS got outcoached and are on vacation
    Duncan could guard him? When? Every time Duncan matched up o9n Dirk Dirk took him outside and drove and Duncan got tagged with a ticky tack bumping foul. The change in rules for penetrating has made it clear path to the basket for guys like Dirk.

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    you know Duncan could guard him and do a decent job while the other big could stay on Damp or Diop and defend the lane, but it's too late now SPURS got outcoached and are on vacation
    So, you didn't watch the series, then. Bringing you up to date: Tim turned into a foul machine any time he had to play even 2 minutes on Dirk. He can't guard him on the perimeter.

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    Show me the link to the box score where Amare scored 70 last year. Amare, despite his prodigious atheltic gifts, is actually rather limited offensively. Comparing the offensive threats posed by Amare and Dirk is just foolish. Dirk is MILES better and more versatile as an offensive threat.
    Dude, that is basketball ignorance at its best. Amare over powered the whole spurs team and hits facial contested jumpers the whole series. Amare is not limited offensively. It is Dirk that shrivels when he gets anywhere near the rim. His ass got capped last night. ing hilarious. The point is if nothing is working, insert Nazr/Rasho for more than 3 ing seconds. I just hoping that pop still doesn't hold grudges against Nazr for making that 3 pt at the end of one of the kings games. I don't see Dirk scoring 70 in the league. Ever. especially against the spurs. We are not the Toronto Raptors.

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    Duncan could guard him? When? Every time Duncan matched up o9n Dirk Dirk took him outside and drove and Duncan got tagged with a ticky tack bumping foul. The change in rules for penetrating has made it clear path to the basket for guys like Dirk.


    No kidding. But it seems that has changed in the Phoenix series. It seems Marion and others are blocking Dirk's shots hard and nothing is called. Phoenix is doing things that if done half by Spurs were whistled.

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    Get over it already, Pop ain't going nowhere, he is still wearing Peter Holt's Kneepads.

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    So, you didn't watch the series, then. Bringing you up to date: Tim turned into a foul machine any time he had to play even 2 minutes on Dirk. He can't guard him on the perimeter.

    I said he could guard him I didn't say he would be good at it, I dont think their is a player who could guard Dirk right now do you know of one.

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