The Spurs have the guys who can give up fouls on Shaq and Rasho is enough for Yao. At this point Mohammed is superfluous.
Pop does need to evaluate what style he wants to play to get out of the West. Once the Spurs get out of the West, their Bigs come in handy as Mohammed did in 2005. They would come in handy vs. Miami.
Basketball has been moving to smaller lineups in general. Look at the NCAAs the past few years. Illinois had a 3-guard lineup against a not-so big UNC in the Finals (Scott May isn't that big). Villanova went with 4-guards and upset a Big Florida in the 2nd round (2005). In 2006, Florida (Noah inside, Brewer outside) and LSU had size, but very mobile size and therefore, they were able to give small-ball a bit of a set-back.
There is a place for size and defense at the top of basketball, but only if that size can move.
The Spurs have the guys who can give up fouls on Shaq and Rasho is enough for Yao. At this point Mohammed is superfluous.
Sean May*
I think we need to stick with the 2 bigs. Make Dallas adjust to us.
Hate to beat a dead horse- alot has to do with who else Dallas has on the floor. In game 1, Avery stuck with Griffin- who was not an offensive threat whatsoever, and we often "hid" a big guy on him. When AJ switched his line-up, it would not work for two bigs out there. Are you really proposing a line-up where Nazr covers Dirk or Howard??
I would rather have Nazr on Howard than play small ball.
The argument for the 2nd big is that at least you have another rebounder on the floor. Dirk goes off, but at least you aren't as weak on the glass and in the interior.
Yeah, Scott was Sean's dad. Sorry.
That's offense-only thinking. So how and why would that strategy work?
Not to mention that's our style of play. Our iden y.
The same way it did last year?
They didn't play Dallas in the playoffs last year. The Spurs beat PHX because PHX played no defense whatsoever, as I mentioned before.
Case in point, the report from last year's WCFs with the Suns
http://www.nba.com/games/20050601/SASPHO/recap.html
"For us to beat them (the Suns), we have to make some stops because we are not as good as them offensively," Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said. "They are better than us offensively, so that's what they try to do."
Nazr Mohammed played only 17 minutes in the close-out game and Rasho was a DNP. Spurs played small-ball. The more Stephen Hunter played the more Nazr played, the less Hunter played, the less Nazr played. Spurs played small with the Suns but got the stops when they needed to.
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You realize Howard went off when Tim guarded him this season and you want to put Nazr on him!!
Nazr's elbows are Mutombo'esque.Plus he has good wheels.
Isn't "making stops" synonymous with pushing the driver to the baseline where there's a big man waiting? That's what the Spurs always do. No matter which side of the floor the balls on. How do you do that when the guy helping is Michael Finley. =/
As for us not playing the Mavs last year, I know...but generally speaking, we have a decent record against the Mavs the past few years. When have we ever gone small-ball on them? I can't recall.
Like I said earlier...in '03.
Malik Rose is not small ball.
The guy is a Power Forward. Finley and Bowen are Shooting Guards and Small Forwards.
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Solid D's been on a roll lately with his one-liners.
After reading all this thread Please Don't Ban Me has a point. The Spurs have always gone big. And always made Dallas adjust to the Spurs. Why do you think Dallas went off and got Dampier and Diop. Because they needed bigs to play against the Spurs. To me it does not make sense on why they had gone small.
I do not see nazr being so great and offensive and defensive force same rasho. maybe better D. But hopw would our transition D looked like?
In addition,
Nazr and Rasho couldn't get back fast enough on transition defense.
Neither Nazr nor Rasho were much of an offensive threat. Some responsibility for that is on Pop, I think.
Even when Nazr or Rasho were out there, the Spurs were being outrebounded anyway.
Basically, it came down to Rasho not playing quick enough and Nazr not playing smart enough. Also, while TD found his power game on the offensive end, he still didn't have much lateral quickness on the defensive end.
They would be in there to rebound.
Plus you still have your 1,2 and 3 to get back on D.
Dallas isn't the run-and-gun team we're used to in the past. Also, Nazr has done decent against teams that do run in the past, the Phoenix's and the Denver's of the world.
Oh, Great Odin's Raven! Not another thread on the dreaded "small ball".
If Pop had played "big", Dirk kills us. If Nazr/Rasho come into the game, Dirk is drooling because he knows either a) Timmy is gonna get into early foul trouble or b) he's going to have a cement-footed Frankenstein trying to guard him.
NEXT
The main reason I am for trying to sign Scola is because I think the only way to beat the small ball is to get the critical player (dirk in this case) in foul trouble. If you have a starting lineup of scola (who can post up nicely and draw contact) and duncan there will be significant mismatches to our advantage on the offensive end. Avery will have to put Dirk on either of those players on defense or risk getting murdered on the boards because dirk would be forced to guard a player along the arc. If he is in foul trouble, we have our mission accomplished. They will be forced to play a more traditional lineup.
Our problem this year is the deficiency of Rasho and Nazr on offense coupled with Horry's offensive demise. None of the three were talented enough to warrant keeping in the game.
Scola may not be the answer, but he seems to be the most viable option (even though its a risk) than anyone we can pick up in a trade or free agency.
nazr is one of the worst defenders on the roster, and does not have "wheels" to stay with howard. it would be a nightmare matchup.
Nazr is one of the worst defenders on our roster?
I disagree. Saying he's not mobile and can't get up and down the court is one thing, but this year and last he has come through for us against other teams bigs. In fact, if anything his OFFENSE is limited, it's his defense that gets him on the floor.
he's out there to rebound. he can't rotate, block shots, or defend in general. if he could do any of those things, he would have earned some playing time. he was benched because his defense blows.
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