Oberto is good at tapping out rebounds. But he doesn't have the leaping ability to actually go up and pull down hard rebounds.
Oberto is pretty good at compensating for his lack of athleticism and skill by using guile and savvy. He clearly is smart and experienced.
But he is neither an NBA athlete nor an NBA talent.
And if Oberto deserved playing time, he would have shown that in practice, and Pop would have played him. As it was, he couldn't beat out two guys in Nazr and Rasho who contributed little to nothing.
A lot of people were impressed with Chris Kaman this year.
Anybody think that Scola could play a similar role for the Spurs?
Kaman got about 12 and 10 last season, in 33 MPG.
Not very athletic,
a hustler and banger,
gets in position,
goes for the ball,
OK scoring moves around the basket.
Tim, Scola, Javtokas sharing nearly all 96 MPG for the Spurs front-court, maybe a few odd minutes for Rasho and Fabricio.
I figure Robert is of no further use, too old, too slow for small ball, and probably no motivation to be in best shape. For a guy who doesn't show up until the playoffs, he had only 4 PPG and 4 RPG in 17 MPG, shooting 35% for 3Gs. Thanks for 2005, useless in 2006.
Last edited by boutons_; 06-06-2006 at 06:19 PM.
Kaman is 7 feet tall and 265 pounds. He's also an animal under the boards. Scola appears to be a different type of player -- but if Scola could be Kaman, he's a no-brainer to sign.
I'm skeptical. I think Scola will be much better in international ball than in the NBA. (Unless, of course, the NBA is completely converted to FIBA-ball).
hahahahahahahaha
I'm glad I'm not the only one who believes this, dude you should get a spur.
I remember Oberto in one of the late regular season games against the Mavs. He was rebounding and hustling like crazy, bringing a lot of energy in the time he was allocated. The Spurs lost that one as I recall but he played outstanding. I felt that Pop could have given him more minutes and even used him in the Playoffs. The guy can play.
You really think the Spurs gave him 7.5 million for that? I doubt that they would agree with your assessment. Oberto's biggest problem is that he doesn't get much play time because he isn't as good as the above-average centers (during the regular season) ahead of him.
Yes, even the Spurs can miscalculate and pay $7.5 million to somebody who doesn't pan out.
If you're contending that Rasho and Nazr are "above average," well then "above average" also means "not good enough to get the Spurs where they want to be, and therefore needing to be replaced."
This has been going on among Spurs fans forever -- wishful thinking about bench scrubs, that the little flashes of talent they show are going to blossom into consistent excellence.
How much more upside can Oberto have at what, 31 years of age?
"more upside can Oberto have"
yes, 31, but still last year was his first year:
1) in USA (culture shock is real)
2) in NBA (much tougher, faster than FIBA)
3) learning the Spurs' system and what he can contribute, finding his self-confidence in all of the above contexts.
I won't write him off, if he gets PT, until after his second year.
I don't think anyone's saying that he's going to develop new skills, just that it's possible he'll develop into a decent rotation player after having had a year to acclimate to the very different style of play in the NBA.
Me too. For example, you started to see Finley mastering the learning curve by about January, whereas there were no such signs from Van Exel and I knew then he was going to be a bust for the rest of the season. I've seen those Finley flashes from Oberto, and so I'm willing to bet there's more there there, but he simply hasn't had enough PT for any of us to make much of a judgment one way or the other, plus there's the culture shock that you mention.
But if he gets adequate PT next year and is still not able to play at even Rasho level, then yes, dump in the nearest trade.
There´s not a question Between Oberto and Scola
Scola is better player than Oberto, he´s a Franchise player in Europe and the Go to Guy
But tle last summer we have in the Team TD as PF and the Centers are Nazr and Rasho and we need defense, Oberto in Better than Scola, but now is a question between Small Ball or 2 Big, if we play small ball Scola is perfect for this Job, 2 PF or Scola as PF and TD the Center
Robert Horry´s minutes are down every year, and his stats too
In this situation, we can start with Duncan and Rasho or Horry and Duncan, Scola replacing TD and Oberto the Center Backup
If the Team Plays small ball, Horry and Duncan starters, and the first Move is Scola
If the team plays High Low, Duncan and Rasho, the first move is Horry, the Second Oberto and the last Scola
If you need defense, Rasho in the Field or Oberto, if you need to score, Scola in the floor
I basically agree with everything you said.
But why would anyone say a player is not meant for the NBA when he is in the NBA? I don’t get. I mean the powers that be must have evaluated him as a player and thought he would be valuable to the team.
I never had high expectations on Oberto but I will admit that I was expecting an aggressive player that had a foul mouth
At least Oberto wouldn’t make me cringe when he was on the floor, in fact he gave me that happy “yay for him” vibe I get from Mark- does that sense?
Scola isn't coming over, we just need to realize that. His buyout is too large and the Spurs are not even sold on him. I think right now, Scola is at best a sweetner for a trade deal, but I don't see him coming over this year or even next year. The Spurs have wanted to get something for Scola for a long time. Right now, Scola doesn't fill a need on our team. He could play back-up PF , but I don't think the Spurs want to take a gamble on him right now. I think the only prospect that gets an offer from the Spurs this year is Javtokas. Everybody else we are going to pick up in free agency or through trades.
Whether it's to the Spurs or someone else, why wouldn't Scola come over next year when he has no buyout at all?
Luis sort of reminds me of Malik Rose. They have similar styles as energy players.
However, he'll never reach the greatness that is Omar Cook, IcemanCometh.
Last edited by Solid D; 06-07-2006 at 01:11 PM.
Backup PF?
Who´s the PF? Duncan, he looks like a Center in All the PO
If he´s going to play as center, Luis can be starter or a player who plays 20 minutes as PF from the bench
Hmmm...Manu turned out to be as good as advertised. Oh well.
I only say next year, because the Spurs may do something with his rights midseason, before the trade deadline if things don't look too great and they find a good deal to move someone. Scola might just be thrown into the package.
they will trade him by draft night
scola can not handle rc emailing him to tell him to work on his game
how in is he going to handle po going off at him
If the $3-4M buyout rumors are right, I think he gets signed or traded this year. If they're wrong and Tau wants the full package, I think it's next year. No one that's not on the inside really knows what the buyout deal is.
Either way, my gut feel is that Scola is probably more likely as trade bait than on the Spurs.
Scola didn't handle it? Did he grab his shotgun and rampage through the Spanish hillside?
No.
The issue was R.C.'s lack of tact in the email. I'd be a little steamed about it, myself, such nitpicking after a great win. But Buford is famous for not being the most socially gracious.
Last edited by Mr. Body; 06-07-2006 at 02:49 PM.
Enough of the Parkers and Ginobilis.
I would say that spurs and him are not on the greatest terms.....
and I wanted him over rose
I am just being realistic thinking he will not be a spur he can ask to be traded you know
yeah they never helped get a ring to sa never
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