or is it javotskas now?
2 seriously overrated players by our fans. They won't be ready to contribute even if they ever manage to make it over here. But I guess you people need something to grasp a hold of every offseason.
People said the same thing about Parker when he was drafted, and then about Ginobili. Wrong on both accounts. I'm not saying either one will be amazing, but there's always people on each side of the argument, and every time one side is wrong. They could be great, or they could be the worst players ever. We don't know. Thats why theres so much speculation.
Eh, we don't need much.
ace, do you know the name of that basketball song in the video? It sounds like Bolshevik frat rap or something.
Apparently, only the last dunk is pre-accident.
I think if he's got the bowl cut it's pre accident and if he's got the crew cut it's post...
That first style dunk is definitely post accident...
And is that Spurstalk TimVP that posted that video? The country add says Lithuania...
I'm just going by third hand confirmation. There certainly is enough verifiabale post accident action all of us have seen to calm any fears about athleticism.
Damn, that was the best dunk there
I could only imagine what he'd be like if he didn't hop on that motorcycle. Supposedly the Spurs were planning on him replacing David. That would have meant no Rasho and possibly someone like Gilbert Arenas or Lamar Odom
Oh well, hopefully his leg can last in the NBA.
And that wasn't the real timvp who posted it. Unless I went into some drunken Javtokas rage and then blacked out. . .
Spurs working out Conroy sure points to them bringing the Euros over.
2 words 'complimentary player'. Bigs now have to be at least avg athletes and this guy seems to be at minimum athletic for a big guy. We'll see but I don't think anyone assumes he will have the impact similar to TP and Manu. Mahini seems to be the guy with the biggest upside..
It's hard to say, but in general when you draft 1-5 you expect a inmediatly impact on your team, lower picks not sure you have to expect that kind of effect, what is amazing about Spurs officials is they got three lucky coockies in the middle of the supermarket (Tony, Manu) probably Scola is the third; but after TP and Manu our expectations are very high.
I won't say that Scola will be the next Dirk, Paul, a profet, a Prize Nobel ... just want him (or whoever) to contribute next to Duncan for next season; I don't care about names, probably Spurs will considering sending Scola's rigths to get something valuable in return, many others team will take a good look on Scola if he were available.
We've had Oberto. Is anything better too much to ask?
Everyone also got all wet about Oberto, and we were sooo wrong....
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who is everyone?? there were plenty of people here that supported bringing in Scola over Oberto. Its only because we couldn't bring Scola that we got Oberto, that should tell you something. Scola is a much different player, much more athletic, and god knows we need a decent rebounder. Perhaps he turns our to be a bust, but to right him off simply because Oberto sucked is not too smart.
He looked really quick with his feet and was beating guards down the floor on fast breaks. He was getting off the floor quickly on those blocked shots. I'd like to see him and Mahini starting for the Spurs side by side. If most of that video was post accident, I don't think he lost so much ability as to not be successful.
I don't think anyone can judge Oberto as a basketball player after one season where he spent 90% of the time on the bench. I saw most of the games and when he got a chance to play, he played IMO, pretty decent. I don't think that any of us should've anticipated a 15 and 10 guy, especially in his first season in a new league.
I'm convinced that if Oberto would be given 20-25 minutes every night, maybe as a starter (I have to see what the Spurs FO is going to do this summer), he would produce more then Rasho and Nazr.
Both Javtokas and Scola are ready for the NBA. They'll most likely not be stars, but good role players. Bring one of them over if possible, esp. Scola. I'm really high on him and I know he wants to show everyone that he can play here.
There was an interview where Javtokas said the only thing that bothered him a bit from the accident was his shoulder. You have to remember that from pre-to post accident he's likely added 30 to 40 lbs which is going to effect his movement too.
From all the videos Javtokas has shown no left hand whatsoever.
Javtokas is a starting caliber center in today's NBA. He's quick, can jump, has strength, runs the floor well. We'll be very happy with him.
Oberto- I don't think we play to some of his strengths and wonder if we ever will. Maybe it's not possible with Duncan (rightfully) dominating the paint, but every time he gets the ball on the block, he's always looking for back-cuts. Cuts that aren't there in our system, but happen galore in the Argentina NT.
Scola is used to those passes. Not saying we should ever pair he and Oberto, but there are things these guys are used to doing that they never get to do. Also, the bread and butter play this last year for Scola was the pick-and-roll. Teams couldn't stop it.
Javtokas and Mahinmi may never get paired, especially since there's such an age difference (Ian not ready when Robertas declines). But the block party makes me giddy to think about.
I've said from Day 1- pair Fabricio with Rasho.
Oberto is a good screener and passer. However, he can't shoot, rebound, handle the ball, or defend. He is as athletic as a turnip. Whenever he catches the ball, he cradles it up around his elbow and starts looking for somebody to pass to, because that's all he can really do with it. Maybe on the Argentine NT, he fits it great. But he's not much of an NBA player.
Maybe they can do something in the NBA. However, I question whether either of them fills any of the holes the Spurs have, and whether this is the time the Spurs should be acclimating more Euroleague guys into the NBA anyway.Both Javtokas and Scola are ready for the NBA. They'll most likely not be stars, but good role players. Bring one of them over if possible, esp. Scola. I'm really high on him and I know he wants to show everyone that he can play here.
I'm pretty sure it is the official Rytas team song from this season or last, they have mp3s of each season's song for download on their site.do you know the name of that basketball song in the video?
EDIT: nevermind, it isn't one of them, the second song is on there though.
True.Apparently, only the last dunk is pre-accident.
The blocks and dunk with Sabonis are from the end of the 03/04 season, the accident was in 2002.
Last edited by objective; 06-06-2006 at 10:46 AM.
anyone but rasho
I don't know about your analysis Extra Stout, Oberto is a fine rebounder, esp. on the offensive glass. He's got nice hands and he's a very intelligent player. You're right though about his shooting touch, and that he prefers to pass the ball then shoot.
He's better suited for the Argentinian national side then the Spurs, but that doesn't mean he's not good for the Spurs. Like I said before, give him more playing time and we'll see.
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