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    Phil Jackson? Yes. Pat Riley? Yes. Avery Johnson? Yes.

    If not any of those, keep Pop.

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    Since Gregg Popovich took over, we've won no less then 53 game in a full season. We've won 6 division championships in 9 years. We've made it to the WCF 4 out of 9 years and to the finals 3 times and won the championship 3 times. What more does a mother er have to do to earn some respect? Let's not forget those talented spurs teams from 94 to 96 that couldn't get it done before Pop was the coach.

    and to the OP, we don't need a shake up we're a great team who lost to another great team it happens. We DID NOT underacheive! We lost to the 2nd best team in the league in game 7 in overtime! get ing real.

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    POP wouldn't be anywhere without tim.
    Now your argument is well phil wouldn't be anywhere without shaq.
    But he proved he could turn around a team in the lakers with no one on it but kobe and no shaq.

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    How excited? Well...

    (___) this how much.

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    Phil Jackson? Yes. Pat Riley? Yes. Avery Johnson? Yes.

    If not any of those, keep Pop.
    Same old Spurs fans.

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    POP wouldn't be anywhere without tim.
    Now your argument is well phil wouldn't be anywhere without shaq.
    But he proved he could turn around a team in the lakers with no one on it but kobe and no shaq.
    So one could say "Phil Jackson wouldn't be anywhere without Kobe".

    Kobe is a comparable player to Michael Jordan. Having "just" him isn't too bad of a start.





    But generally speaking the "so and so coach wouldn't be anywhere without so and so player" is completely ing re ed. Every great coach has had great players. That's part of the deal.

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    POP wouldn't be anywhere without tim.
    Now your argument is well phil wouldn't be anywhere without shaq.
    But he proved he could turn around a team in the lakers with no one on it but kobe and no shaq.
    Every great coach has won championships because of their superstars. How many rings did Phil win when Jordan retired to play baseball? How many rings did he win when Shaq went to Mia? What happened to Riley the year that magic got hurt in the Finals? So yes, if there was no Tim, Pop wouldnt have won rings. But thats how it is for all coaches. All the great coaches have had superstars. Thats NBA basketball.

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    Every great coach has won championships because of their superstars. How many rings did Phil win when Jordan retired to play baseball? How many rings did he win when Shaq went to Mia? What happened to Riley the year that magic got hurt in the Finals? So yes, if there was no Tim, Pop wouldnt have won rings. But thats how it is for all coaches. All the great coaches have had superstars. Thats NBA basketball.
    I disagree.

    Adelman is a great coach and he never had a superstar (Divac is only a star).

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    I disagree.

    Adelman is a great coach and he never had a superstar (Divac is only a star).
    Wouldn't you consider Clyde Drexler a superstar? I do think Rick is a great coach, though.

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    Clyde is a superstar. He was amazing.

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    He did?

    From what I saw Walker/Haslem were in at the 4 most of the game.
    I should probably be more specific, because Miami going small is a bit different than the Spurs going small.

    Miami normally replaces Shaq with Zo or Doleac. When Miami has to match up with 2 Bigs with size, like they did with the Spurs on occasion, then they might play some combination of Shaq, Doleac or Zo together.

    In Dallas, Miami did very well in the first half with Walker (6'-9") at SF and Haslem (6'-8") at PF and Shaq at the 5. A bigger lineup. Dallas adjusted their screen roll (JT and Dirk) and had better movement toward the end of the 2nd quarter and throughout the rest of the game. There were also some foul concerns with Walker and Haslem trying to guard Dirk. Therefore, Miami went smaller with Posey and seldom played Walker and Haslem together in the 2nd half...until the end. Miami is fortunate to have some fairly quick, physical Forwards. Whether that will make enough of a difference in holding Dirk down some, remains to be seen.

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    I should probably be more specific, because Miami going small is a bit different than the Spurs going small.

    Miami normally replaces Shaq with Zo or Doleac. When Miami has to match up with 2 Bigs with size, like they did with the Spurs on occasion, then they might play some combination of Shaq, Doleac or Zo together.

    In Dallas, Miami did very well in the first half with Walker (6'-9") at SF and Haslem (6'-8") at PF and Shaq at the 5. A bigger lineup. Dallas adjusted their screen roll (JT and Dirk) and had better movement toward the end of the 2nd quarter and throughout the rest of the game. There were also some foul concerns with Walker and Haslem trying to guard Dirk. Therefore, Miami went smaller with Posey and seldom played Walker and Haslem together in the 2nd half...until the end. Miami is fortunate to have some fairly quick, physical Forwards. Whether that will make enough of a difference in holding Dirk down some, remains to be seen.
    That's not exactly going small.

    Maybe by Miami standards, but they still have a center and a power forward on the floor. Instead of a Power Forward and a small forward, and 3 guards.

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    FACT: Larry Brown will be bought out/fired/ousted as the NYK coach before next year.

    FACT: Most of the blame for this years playoff underachievement is placed on the shoulders of Greg Popovich. Very little credit is given to our opponent.
    FACT: A "shakeup" to bring back the excitement and spotlight to San Antonio Spurs basketball is looming and appropriately in order.
    FACT: Hiring Larry Brown would do just that.

    What do you think?? I'm NOT asking how "likely" you think it is...if it could happen, what do you think are the pros/cons? Would it work...or fail?

    SOUND OFF:
    No!

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    That's not exactly going small.

    Maybe by Miami standards, but they still have a center and a power forward on the floor. Instead of a Power Forward and a small forward, and 3 guards.
    Right, and that's because the Spurs had nobody over 6-7 with mobility, besides Tim. The Heat have a couple of physical 6-8, 6-9 guys with decent lateral movement...and they were successful with it until Dallas adjusted by moving Dirk around to the wings some and JT getting the lion's share of the screen/roll scoring.

    Zo played 5 minutes...all of them spotting Shaq.

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    Right, and that's because the Spurs had nobody over 6-7 with mobility, besides Tim. The Heat have a couple of physical 6-8, 6-9 guys with decent lateral movement...and they were successful with it until Dallas adjusted by moving Dirk around to the wings some and JT getting the lion's share of the screen/roll scoring.

    Zo played 5 minutes...all of them spotting Shaq.
    This debate has no end.

    I could argue till my fingers fall off. Bottom line is, you think we should have gone small and I think we should have stayed big. I doubt one is going to convince the other to change there opinion.

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    The Heat started the 2nd with Haslem at center, Walker at PF and Posey at SF and Walker and Posey played alot at the same time with Shaq at center, so C, SF, and SF isn't small ball? Let's see how miami adjusts the rest of the way, i'm sure we'll see more of combinations of players so it will be interesting to see how it plays out. In the end you can't compare Miami to SA because we don't have one player like posey, walker or haslem.

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    I don't think Pop is going anywhere until Duncan retires.

    And I would never want Larry Brown here. He's a whiner. He's a nomad. He doesn't relate well to his players. And he's not loyal at all. The fact that he even spoke to Cleveland during the Pistons' 2005 playoff run is completely disgusting.

    F' Larry Brown.

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    I don't think Pop is going anywhere until Duncan retires.

    And I would never want Larry Brown here. He's a whiner. He's a nomad. He doesn't relate well to his players. And he's not loyal at all. The fact that he even spoke to Cleveland during the Pistons' 2005 playoff run is completely disgusting.

    F' Larry Brown.

    I totally agree with you.

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    I wouldn't mind PJ over Pop, but LB over Pop? No thank you.

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    A lot of people (posters) are high on PJ.

    I have never understood why.

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    A lot of people (posters) are high on PJ.

    I have never understood why.
    Not me. PJ had two chances at the NBA, and was underwhelming in both.

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    Every great coach has won championships because of their superstars. How many rings did Phil win when Jordan retired to play baseball? How many rings did he win when Shaq went to Mia? What happened to Riley the year that magic got hurt in the Finals? So yes, if there was no Tim, Pop wouldnt have won rings. But thats how it is for all coaches. All the great coaches have had superstars. Thats NBA basketball.
    How many rings did Phil lose when he had Jordan? Phil went like 6-7.
    How many rings did Riley lose when he had Magic and the refs?

    Pop is 3-8 with Duncan. 2-4 with Duncan, Manu, Parker etc.

    He was handed Finley in the Free Agent Sweepstakes this past summer. Bob Horry the year or two before. If he can't get it done with a lineup like he had, own up to it. Pop apologists keep deflecting attention from what came down this year. If you have a Championship lineup yes you are expected to deliver a Championship.

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    Larry Brown? no.

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    For all of LB's flaws, he still has a fairly good basketball mind. I'd take him over PJ as Pop's assistant/head adviser.

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    I really hope Pop wouldn't move to the front office or otherwise resign! Damn! But to answer your question, NO to Larry Brown.

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