JMarkJohns > Face cuz Suns > Mavs in 06-07

[AZLouis]

Suns have no choice but to try to win their way. They don't have the players to play any other way. The Mavs were that way, but decided that wasn't gonna get it done vs. the Spurs. All their changes were made to try to beat San Antonio.

Yes, but you could also say that they wouldn't submit because they couldn't. If another team wanted to play inside-out with a larger lineup, Phoenix still had to play their style and hope it kept up. They didn't have the bodies to counter other styles.

Both valid points.

Keep in mind that the Suns assembled their lineup and formulated their roster long before the playoffs. The Suns had said during pre-season they would not be anything other than what they are...a fast-break team out to score 110 points per game.

D'Antoni has professed over and over about their gameplan and unwillingness to change.

I absolutely wish they had acquired a big man or two leading up to the trade deadline but they didn't. They knowingly had Amare out and KT with James Jones out indefinitely at the time. Instead they chose to "reload" with TT and cut one of their tradeable assets (JJax).

At that point it was obvious, they would not concede their style.

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Both valid points.

Keep in mind that the Suns assembled their lineup and formulated their roster long before the playoffs. The Suns had said during pre-season they would not be anything other than what they are...a fast-break team out to score 110 points per game.

D'Antoni has professed over and over about their gameplan and unwillingness to change.

I absolutely wish they had acquired a big man or two leading up to the trade deadline but they didn't. They knowingly had Amare out and KT with James Jones out indefinitely at the time. Instead they chose to "reload" with TT and cut one of their tradeable assets (JJax).

At that point it was obvious, they would not concede their style.

I think they'd definitely benefit by adding a big man (maybe Chandler will be that guy?) to help them in the playoffs when the game slows down cuz it always does regardless of how fast you play. The majority of the Mav/Sun series was played at a slower pace than the Suns wanted to play.

[AZLouis]

Two will be added....KT and Amare.

The Suns are on record just after losing to the Mavs as saying they will NOT trade Marion. Yet the rumors continue so I guess we'll see by next Wednesday.

The possibility does remain that they'll swap their 2 1st rounders and try to move up for Sene. But the kid can run.

A "traditional" big man would not adjust well to the Suns style. KT did the best he could but his numbers were down and he was constantly in foul trouble. He admitted that conditioning was not up to par until the time he injured his foot.

The Suns' strength is their small-ball style they play. The 3 guard and 2 forward sets create some mismatches on offense. Usually the mismatch is enough to counter the defensive mismatch, though the past 2 WCFs say different (health and bench issues aside).

I still like Chandler, he won't bog the middle and he definitely wouldn't slow them down. The fact that if done they could acquire Aldridge/Bargnani/Tyrus Thomas and insert them into the lineup is very interesting.

[JMarkJohns]

pusspuss can claim I have a jihad against him all he wants, but it was he who sought me out in previous threads, started the personal attacks and called me his "Spurstalk nemesis" well before I really started to lay into him.

That is all.

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Two will be added....KT and Amare.

The Suns are on record just after losing to the Mavs as saying they will NOT trade Marion. Yet the rumors continue so I guess we'll see by next Wednesday.

The possibility does remain that they'll swap their 2 1st rounders and try to move up for Sene. But the kid can run.

A "traditional" big man would not adjust well to the Suns style. KT did the best he could but his numbers were down and he was constantly in foul trouble. He admitted that conditioning was not up to par until the time he injured his foot.

The Suns' strength is their small-ball style they play. The 3 guard and 2 forward sets create some mismatches on offense. Usually the mismatch is enough to counter the defensive mismatch, though the past 2 WCFs say different (health and bench issues aside).

I still like Chandler, he won't bog the middle and he definitely wouldn't slow them down. The fact that if done they could acquire Aldridge/Bargnani/Tyrus Thomas and insert them into the lineup is very interesting.

I like Chandler as well. I think he'd be a decent fit with the Suns.

[Mavs<Spurs]

I don't think that Chandler is that great a player and for someone who is supposed to be a big he is small and he plays small.

[JMarkJohns]

If the Suns trade Marion to acquire the #2, the Suns would be very smart to select Brandon Roy. Think Joe Johnson to Paul Pierce range of potential.

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If the Suns trade Marion to acquire the #2, the Suns would be very smart to select Brandon Roy. Think Joe Johnson to Paul Pierce range of potential.

Yeah, I can see Roy being rookie of the year if he goes to the right situation for him. The Suns might be that situation.

[JMarkJohns]

I see Roy being the Rookie of the Year, reguardless. Kid is taylormade for the NBA with a skill-set better than every incoming player and far more potential than every wing in this draft.

I figure he'll average 14 points, 4 assists, 3 assists as a rookie.

[AZLouis]

JMark, I read an article proclaiming Shannon Brown as the best athlete in the draft with the potential to be the best in the group.

It's an Insider report from Chad Ford.

Michigan State: Brown has blown away just about every team he's worked out for. His combination of athleticism, strength and speed is unparalleled for a guard in the draft. If Brown had participated in the Orlando combine, he likely would've measured out as the top athlete in the draft.

Like Wade, Brown has great hands and is unusually long for a player his height -- though he's considerably shorter than Wade. He's also really improved his shooting, especially from midrange. And he's younger than Wade at the same stage.

Unlike Wade and Foye, however, he doesn't have the handle to play part-time point guard in the NBA, according to scouts.

While Brown is ranked below Roy and Foye, a few scouts believe he could end up being the best of the group.

[JMarkJohns]

Brown underacheived in college, much like a Hassan Adams of Arizona.

Perpetual potential that never is reached raises question marks with me, however, Brown is a quality player and maybe in a system where he's featured a little more he'll come closer to maximizing his potential, but Roy is a "Do everything" player with no REAL weaknesses.