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It's tough. It'd be like in 2001 if David Robinson received a $50M offer somewhere. Do you let him go or do you keep him for the couple good years he has left?
Basically you are screwed either way.
If Wallace leaves you all might as well tank for Oden.
It's tough. It'd be like in 2001 if David Robinson received a $50M offer somewhere. Do you let him go or do you keep him for the couple good years he has left?
Basically you are screwed either way.
that is why trading darko was so ing stupid
bulls are le contenders with him
ben wallace can be the guy that puts them over the edge
it will not be chauncey
IT IS ABOUT EGO MORE THEN MONEY TO
Wallace is still the DPOY, and I think he has at least 2 all-star seasons left, which you couldn't say for David in 2001. To me this is a no-brainer if the deal is 4 years. For 5 years it becomes a lot tougher sell though.
Rasheed already doesn't like Flip. I'm sure if Ben left Rasheed would think it was Flips fault Ben left becaus he benched Ben in Game 6, he never involved Ben etc.
If Sheed has problems with Flip and ben is gone we shoud get rid of Sheed unforunantly because I don't se it working out.
dun dun duuuunnnnnn!
Sadly, i agree with this. It really is worth it in my eyes for the years of le contention, and i really don't think a 4-year deal is that bad either. Maybe if the Pistons offer 13 instead of 12. I don't think Ben will leave for 2 mil/yearly more. As much as he hates Flip, I like to think there is still loyalty there towards his teamates and what the Pistons organization has done for him.
There is NOBODY we can get that will have anywhere close to the impact that Ben has on our team. NOBODY.
I know I won't have a good sleep because I'm going to wonder if Ben got signed somwhere every 15 minutes.
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I dread checking for updates on the Pistons site. I don't even want to think about it anymore
I have no idea what to expect now.
Oh well
Can you give me a link? I don't know any good Detroit boards.
www.Pistonsforum.com is good, but it's still building a user base. Come join in!
Dale Davis is on the pistons?!
I thought 3 years for $36 million would be a sound offer for Ben from management's standpoint, the extra year is icing on the cake IMO.
That's $27 million less than Chicago's offering if the report is true. I know which offer I'd take if I were Ben.
yep that site is great. I'm checking chicago sites right now. Some people are aying that this is the offer the bulls are giving, but they have no links.
3 years isn't long enough for him right now. Maybe the 4 year 48 million deal will work, but the bulls are making Detroit sweat right now.
Maybe I'm stupid, naive or too much of a blind homer to think straight. But I am not of the belief that the Pistons are simply done if we do not get Ben back.
Will they win the 'ship next year? Probably not.
But the future is still bright. Tay, Rip and Sheed are already signed ... we assumingly will resign Chauncey next year. That's 4 of the "best starting 5" locked up for 3? 4? 5 years? I'll take that.
Dice can play 20-25 minutes. More than that? doubtful. But Dale Davis should still be good for 20 minutes ( once traded to Indy in the 04-05 season, he played 25 games @ 30 minutes per. He averaged 7pts 9rbs. And we didn't utilize him at all last year. ). Jason Maxiell (last years #16 draft pick) is supposed to be a baby Ben with much more offense. Play Dice, Dale, Sheed and Maxiell. I'm fine with that.
Obviously we won't be the same team that we've grown used to seing. The defensive will not in the top 5 defenses in the L. We will attempt to become more of an offensive team ... just as the NBA seems driven to make most teams.
We are stil a playoff team even without Ben ... at least we are in the East.
Next year we have 2 first round picks and 2 seconds I believe. Who's to say we can't throw all of those picks to get #1 overall. Oden would fit right in, and we'd be even more explosive than we are as of right now with Ben.
That might not be very likely, and I'm not gonna base the future on the hope of getting Oden, but we should still be able to get some good talent next year no matter waht.
There is supposed to be much more of a concerted effort to play the bench this year. That should mean a more spry group come playoff time. That should mean that Delfino becomes an impact player our team, creating more offense than we currently posses. Perhaps Amir, though still probably too young and inexperienced, will contribute.
We still have many more Championship pieces than most teams out there. We will have to change and adapt to a different style. But that doesn't mean we're done.
Me too. I just started going to Pistons Forum
If we sign Ben we have barley anything to work with. If we don't sign Ben we still have no money to work with. If we don't resign Ben we're in trouble. If we have to resign Ben by giving him 16 million for 4-5 years Chauncey will probably opt out of his contract next year
There are a couple of other Pistons forums - Realgm, WTFDetroit, and the former Freep forum at Worldcrossing are the biggest. The first is more or less dead and the latter two are somewhat to extremely abrasive depending on subject, and the last is essentially an asshole circlejerk. But the previous poster is essentially right: none of them is very good, which is why we're squatting here.
Dale Davis on the Pacers, a 2nd-round playoff team, 1 year ago: 29.2 MPG, 6.9 PPG, 8.9 RPG (3.6 ORPG), 1.32 BPG.
Dale Davis on the Pistons, a team that quite frankly needed a backup center: 6.4 MPG in 28 of 82 games, no injuries, and frankly those numbers were inflated from some garbage time performances.you, Flip.
There isn't a combination of players you could move to land the #1 pick next year, unless Oden gets hit by a bus. There is absolutely no way anyone would ever trade the right to pick the best highschool big since Alcindor for anything short of LeBron.Next year we have 2 first round picks and 2 seconds I believe. Who's to say we can't throw all of those picks to get #1 overall. Oden would fit right in, and we'd be even more explosive than we are as of right now with Ben.
We definately don't have to worry about overpaying Ben in that price range. There is no way Davidson will EVER do that.
I actually think they will end up paying Chauncey the Max or close to it when he opts out.
I don't know . . .
I think Ben deserves the money more than Chauncey to be honest.
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