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No surprise a DPOY center is going to pull max-money in a size-deprived league. He's worth every penny, and you guys better match or it's over. A scrub like Bonzi Wells will never fill Wallace's void.
Some Chicago radio shows are saying that Ben might get a 15 million 4-5 years offer from the Bulls. Get ready if he chooses to leave. I hope these radio shows don't know what they are talking about.
No surprise a DPOY center is going to pull max-money in a size-deprived league. He's worth every penny, and you guys better match or it's over. A scrub like Bonzi Wells will never fill Wallace's void.
15? seeya! I don't think the Pistons will match that. I don't think I want them to match that. Ben will need to decide if 2 or 3 million more per year is worth leaving this team. If he does go, congrats to him for the big money deal.
Hopefully we will go after and get Pryzilliba and Bonzi. Dump Kato, and actually play Dale Davis 15-20 minutes this year and I'll be cool with it.
No point in getting all upset or start claiming that the sky is falling if he leaves. We still have more talent than most teams in the League. Pryz and Bonzi ... along with making a consistent effort in playing the bench ... will allow us to still compete for the ECF.
We won't match (if this is true). Our owner is too cheap.
After hearing Peja got 13 million from NOK, i'm not suprised if Chicago is offering this much.
We're screwed.
Last edited by Lp26; 07-01-2006 at 11:07 PM.
You guys only have the MLE to work with, regardless of what happens with Wallace. It's Big Ben or bust for you guys. It's no time to get cheap when you're that close to another le.
how much does the pistons have in capspace?
this the mle right?
so how can they get wells and joel and get a backup point?
darko looks good right about now huh!
pistons need to try to get him to do a sign and trade
but bulls have all the advantage
The Pistons are just over $6 million under the cap right now, so no MLE.
No le either way in Detroit, so enjoy Chicago, Ben.
A deal starting at $15M?
We won't match (if this is true). Our owner is too cheap.
After hearing Peja got 13 million from NOK, i'm not suprised if Chicago is offering this much.
We're screwed.
long term max for ben might be to much
short term no
The latest rumor is 5 years $75 million, way out of Davidson's range. Not sure of the particulars, which probably don't exist yet.
That's just an insane amount of $$
Outrageous.
I see signs of Big Ben breaking down. The last two seasons he's gotten worse as the year has gone on. No way in I match a 5-year, $75M offer.
That said, the Pistons are screwed without Wallace. Their only chance is if McDyess can somehow play 30 minutes per game without destroying his knees.
wonder what the bulls will do with those forwards now?
chandler anyone?
wish chandler was alot cheaper
You don't bite the bullet when you can win the le? The Pistons are over without him.
It's only a rumor. Ben still has a chance to stay put, but the Pistons can't be too cheap. We're screwed if Ben leaves because even if he leaves we don't have much to work with anyways
After searching for a bit I can't find the cite for 5/75 that I remembered, so that's extremely unreliable. 4 years $60 is all over the place, though. It goes without saying that that's not necessarily any more reliable.
But this isn't good news:
http://www.mlive.com/pistons/stories...110.xml&coll=1
pistons need nazr
sign and trade and pistons offer?
I hear ya' ... but ...
IMO, 2 years of a good, but not great Ben. is not worth handicapping the team 3 to 5 years from now.
We will be paying Ben and Sheed tons of money to be bench players Thats not a good plan to me. I wasn't thrilled w/ Sheeds deal when we did it either.
We'll see what happens. I still say Ben stays ... but I'm not gonna blame him if he does go. And I won't blame the owner for being cheap. As far as I'm concerned, it's not a smart buisness decision to give Ben 4 or 5 years ... for any amount of money. He has 2 good years left. 3 years in a row, his numbers have fallen. What can we really expect form an offensively defficent player who is obviously aging in 3 to 5 years time? Not much.
Too bad we don't have a shot blocking, offensively talented, athletic big man on the roster anymore. Joe got rid of Darko too soon IMO.
joel is your blocker if you can work a sign and trade with portland
but if spurs want him
his agent is the same as rasho and the gm used to be a spur scout
If Ben leaves Sheed has to leave. Sheed would want to hurt Flip cuz he'd think it was Flips fault Ben left. If the Wallaces leave you almost need to get rid of CB and Dice while they're worth money because without the Wallaces the Pistons won't make it to the Finals and probably not even the ECF.
Ben has been practicing at the Pistons Practice facility and Joe Dumars said that Ben would like to be back.
What do you care about 3-5 years from now when your team is that close to winning it all? If you let Wallace walk you might as well not sign Billups next year either. A 5 year deal may be tough to swallow, but 4 years isn't going to handicap your franchise. You might have to pay $4-$5 million in luxury tax if you keep Wallace and re-up Billups, but shots to win les are too few and far between to pass up.
I'd trade 10 years of being the Knicks (as long as the Spurs don't leave SA) for another ring.
If the Wallaces leave you almost need to get rid of CB and Dice while they're worth money because without the Wallaces the Pistons won't make it to the Finals and probably not even the ECF.
So the Pistons offered him 4-years/$48M?
That's more than I thought they'd make in their first offer to him. If the $60-75M rumors from the Bulls are true, then he's gone. I don't think he'd pass on $12-27M extra.
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