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Yep and in Spanish articles few days ago, they said that Tau was very confident about keeping Scola and signing him an extension. Now articles say that Tau is worried to lose the best player of their franchise history.
Have you been reading anything written here in between your rambling posts about sitting out a year of basketball to prove a point?I guess his stock is just very, very low around the NBA now it baffles me as to why.
His buyout is 3.5 million. All those other guys you mentioned had no or small buyouts.
Yep and in Spanish articles few days ago, they said that Tau was very confident about keeping Scola and signing him an extension. Now articles say that Tau is worried to lose the best player of their franchise history.
The most an NBA team would have to pay of his buyout is a measly $500k he is willing pay the rest. Do your homework.
"Another change in the new CBA raised the limit NBA teams can pay towards a buyout of an existing international league player's contract to $500,000 from $350,000."
http://www.pinnaclehoops.com/news.php?article=83
Twice in a day on the same rule?
Where do you suppose Scola would get the other 3 million for his buyout? Bake sales and car washes?
My homework is done pal. I know all about the 500K. Problem is it's 3 mil short of his buyout. What do you think Scola is going to do? Take out a loan? Or ask the Spurs or whoever for something north of 4 million a year to cover the rest that the 500K doesn't cover with enough left to make a decent paycheck?
If you're really this stupid, just put down the keyboard and walk away.
Are you new here? Is this your first day? He's made it clear for $4 million a year he will pay it himself. Garbajosa is getting $4 million, Oberto got $2.5 million, and Nocioni got $2-3 million a year. I don't know why no team seems to want to pay him that and trade for him or why the Spurs don't but it's common knowledge.
Seeing as how AHF's poster ID # is 49 and you come in at 5888, I'd say he's been on board a tad longer. Sorry, I'm not getting into the argument, it just struck me funny.
give his wife a deal at experss news like Kidd got for coming here?
Pryzbilla is the best we can do, and in 24 mins getting 2 blocks a game is great.
He would fit so much better than Rasho and Nazr did cause he can actually play decent post defense.
Are you a ing re ? Yeah, I posted over 16,000 times in one day. You're the newbie, and you've obviously got some learning to do.
First he has to find a team willing to pay him four million a year. Doesn't look like that's working out so well, does it?He's made it clear for $4 million a year he will pay it himself.
Garbajosa = no buyout. Oberto = no buyout. Nocioni = no buyout.Garbajosa is getting $4 million, Oberto got $2.5 million, and Nocioni got $2-3 million a year. I don't know why no team seems to want to pay him that and trade for him or why the Spurs don't but it's common knowledge.
You don't understand why Oberto got what he did, Nocioni got what he did? You realize that 4.5 million >>>> 2 million or 3.03 million, right?
And again, both of those guys got what the market dictates, and obviously the market doesn't dictate Scola being worth 4-4.5 million.
Garbajosa? Toronto has 7+ million in cap room.
In the same vein, why do you feel the Spurs should spend their entire MLE on Scola when they already have three PFs (Duncan, Bonner, Horry) and a gaping hole at the center spot?
, just because you have your panties in a bunch over Luis doesn't mean the Spurs should mortgage their le hopes for next year for the sake of a tweener Euro PF.
The buyout is a non-factor it's $500k to an NBA team. I don't know why do you keep referring to it. Scola had better numbers than Oberto, Garbajosa, and Nocioni. I have a higher opinion of him than the Spurs or any NBA team does apparently. But it's amazing that all these guys whose numbers are way, way behind him in the Euroleague have no problem coming here. When he wants $4 million it's a huge problem. Compared to what these other guys who'd be backing him up in Europe are getting it doesn't make any sense.
The reaons I said are you new is the buyout is only $500k to an NBA team it's non a realtive non-factor the $4 million is the big deal, which makes no sense when you compare it to what the other three players are getting.
Also it surprises that some other NBA team isn't willing to step up and pay him $4 million a year.
Damn you are slow. Scola's buyout is 3.5 million. The most the *Spurs* can contribute to it is 500K. That still leaves 3 million for Scola to come up with. Where do you think he gets that money? The Make-A-Wish foundation? Wake the up man.
Apparently so, and from your comprehension of the buyout situation (or lack thereof), that's a good thing.I have a higher opinion of him than the Spurs or any NBA team does apparently.
Again, no buyout.But it's amazing that all these guys whose numbers are way, way behind him in the Euroleague have no problem coming here.
Teams felt the other guys were worth what they got paid. The Spurs don't think Scola is worth their whole MLE when they need a center for next year. What is so damn hard to comprehend about that?When he wants $4 million it's a huge problem. Compared to what these other guys who'd be backing him up in Europe are getting it doesn't make any sense.
The 500K isn't the factor, it's the fact the Spurs are being asked by Scola and his agent to make up the rest and then some. We're not talking about 4 million dollars in a vacuum.The reaons I said are you new is the buyout is only $500k to an NBA team it's non a realtive non-factor the $4 million is the big deal, which makes no sense when you compare it to what the other three players are getting.
We're talking about a contract starting at 4, 4.5 million for 4-5 years (you're looking realistically at 20+ million for a Scola contract) for a guy who would be third string at best on the depth chart and whose game (interior post scoring) is not in any way complimentary to Tim's (interior post scoring).
You keep bringing up these other guys. Why? Their situations are different.
Chicago needed a wing, they signed Nocioni. Spurs needed front court depth, they signed Oberto with the lower level exemption at a bargain price.
Toronto needs more front court help, they go out and sign Garbajosa to a bargain (relatively speaking) deal.
And what you still want to gloss over is all those guys are unrestricted free agents. They got what the market bore.
Scola has a captive audience (Spurs), one that doesn't need his skill set for the next year (at the least), and is asking them to overpay for him.
Damn dude, this is not so hard, but I guess maybe it is for someone nicknamed after an oversized lizard with a pea brain.
He's made millions of dollars over the course of his career, he also can borrow against the future value of his contract. What are you his accountant? If he says he can pay it then he must be able to have a way to pay it.
That's all good except for the fact he plays PF for them.
$2.5 million is a bargain for Oberto but $4 million is radical overpaying for Scola? Seriously!?!
the spurs don't want pay him because they are cheap, cheap, cheap SOB's.
also they don't want let him go because they know, like the FIBA viewers, what a great player he is.
Aggie Hoopsfan your basketball knowledge is indirectly proportional to your number of posts.
Then why isn't he willing to come over for the minimum? Why is he asking for our entire MLE?He's made millions of dollars over the course of his career, he also can borrow against the future value of his contract. What are you his accountant? If he says he can pay it then he must be able to have a way to pay it.
Right, PFs never play out on the perimeter at all...That's all good except for the fact he plays PF for them.
*Sigh*. I'll type this again, really slooooowly. Last year we had a need for a backup center. Due to being over the cap, we had the MLE and LLE available for our use. We used the MLE to get Finley. We had the LLE, Scola wouldn't take it, so we offered it to Oberto.$2.5 million is a bargain for Oberto but $4 million is radical overpaying for Scola? Seriously!?!
This year, we desperately need a center. As of this writing this is our center depth chart:
C: Oberto
In the case of Scola and bringing him over, this is our PF depth chart:
PF: Duncan, Horry, Bonner
Duncan + Horry + Bonner = 22.7 million in salary for 2006 and 2007. You are begging, kicking, and screaming like a little girl about the Spurs not being willing to ante up 4-4.5 million to Scola, which would make half of our salary cap tied up in the power forward position, all the while having exactly one player at center who couldn't even get off the bench for 5 minutes a game last year under contract.
Does anything about that seem smart to you? Be honest, it's okay to admit you're wrong.
You ask what the big deal deal is. The big deal is we only have one ing center and he's 33 years old.
Spending our MLE on another PF to give this team four out of a roster of 13 when we have exactly one legit (scrub) center on board for 2006-2007 is pretty ing stupid, wouldn't you say?
Is any of this even registering, or are you just going to babble on about what Oberto and Nocioni got from teams that needed them at their respective positions?
the spurs don't want pay him because they are cheap, cheap, cheap SOB's.
also they don't want let him go because they know, like the FIBA viewers, what a great player he is.
Aggie Hoopsfan your basketball knowledge is indirectly proportional to your number of posts.
More brilliance.....
The Spurs don't want to pay him because they are already paying three power forwards 22.7 million in salary this year, and don't want to add another 4.5 million for a fourth when they need a ing center.
As for your last nappy ass comment...That you have 'Zilla's back in all this says all that we need to know about your 'basketball knowledge.'
Me and Aggie never agree, but , how could you not be on the same page on this freakin issue.
With our MLE the organization has to know we have very little chance of getting a quality center. Why not get a talented player like Scola and if you had been paying attention you would know the Spurs have said they would be looking to play Tim more at the center next year anyway. Also I said as you conveniently ignored no other team seems willing to get Scola and pay him $4 million which is shocking to me considering what Oberto, Garbajosa, and Nocioni got paid because he played better than all of them in Europe. I am not denying that people don't think he is worth $4 million only that it's amazing so many people think it's outrageous considering what these other guys got paid.
you may refer to my thread led the real reason scols isn;t signed
Funny, by most reports the Spurs are on the short list for Przybilla. Yeah, guys who put up 14 and 19, and who are in the top 10 in the league in blocked shots are the last things I think of when I think of the word 'quality'.
Because we don't need him and his skill set is not complimentary to Tim Duncan's.Why not get a talented player like Scola
Horry and Bonner? Shoot the three. Scola? Shoots the layup.
Yeah, but not 48 a night, which is what he'd be doing with our current depth at center (Oberto). This isn't hard, quit trying to make it.and if you had been paying attention you would know the Spurs have said they would be looking to play Tim more at the center next year anyway.
Someone help me out. Are teams playing these guys to play in Europe, or to play in the USA? Last I checked, it was the NBA, and it was America. And again, each of the teams you listed had a need for said player at said position.. We have no need for an undersized PF at a position we already have covered with the best in the game (Tim Duncan, ever heard of him?).Also I said as you conveniently ignored no other team seems willing to get Scola and pay him $4 million which is hocking considering what Oberto, Garbajosa, and Nocioni got paid because he played better than all of them in Europe.
Again, the other guys got paid because they filled a role on their respective teams. Scola fills no role for us. If the Spurs thought that they could sign Scola for 4.5 million, slide him in at starter at PF next Tim, and be golden, they would.I am not denying that people don't think he is worth $4 million only that it's amzing so many peopl think it's outrageous considering what these other guys got paid.
But they don't, and they're not, so get the over it already.
That's an unlikely pipe dream (I don't like him anyways) but a pipe dream still, he can get the MLE anywhere and more than that in a couple of places. Besides the Spurs aren't even waiting to see if they can get him before they tell Scola no. The Spurs chances of getting a quality center are pretty low with the MLE they must know that.Funny, by most reports the Spurs are on the short list for Przybilla. Yeah, guys who put up 14 and 19, and who are in the top 10 in the league in blocked shots are the last things I think of when I think of the word 'quality'.
Nobody has stepped up to trade for Scola even though they know the Spurs are shopping him and he would require $4 million a year which means no one likes him that much at that price. Which surprises me because he seems very talented by all accounts. Why no one so far in the NBA wants Luis Scola for $4 million I don't understan but the again I don't have the scouting and GM resume of Aggies HoopsFan.
Chicago just got a center, which means it's down to which team offering the MLE is more attractive to Pryz. And you think we're a long shot? Right, he'll go to some scrub team where he can lose 60 games a year while making the MLE, instead of going to one where he has a shot at a championship while making the MLE. Good call.That's an unlikely pipe dream (I don't like him anyways) but a pipe dream still, he can get the MLE anywhere and more than that in a couple of places.
Doesn't it ring a ing bell anywhere in that cavern you call a brain that no NBA GM, who has vastly more resources than you or I, wants to give him that amount of money?Nobody has stepped up to trade for Scola even though they know the Spurs are shopping him and he would require $4 million a year which means no one likes him that much at that price. Which surprises me because he seems very talented by all accounts. Why no one so far in the NBA wants Luis Scola for $4 million I don't understan but the again I don't have the scouting and GM resume of Aggies HoopsFan.
Just maybe, *maybe*, those NBA folks know a bit more than you. Granted there is some really dumbass NBA GMs out there, but not even the smart ones want the guy for that price.
I'm going to have to go with those guys and what they know and have access to over you 'Zilla-esque 400 posts and change expertise.
Horry did well in playoff only once in last 3 years.
And going by last year, his being the man is just wishful thinking.
Horry is now officially a member of geezer force. At this stage of his career and age, I seriously doubt he can beat out Bonner. Just another old slow guy who can't make his shots and who can't defend.
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