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    That the Spurs told Scola he will not be here for sure next yr.

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    I already knew that.

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    Pretty much expected.

    Did it say anything about a trade?

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    That the Spurs told Scola he will not be here for sure next yr.
    Not be in the league? Or not be with the Spurs?

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    They said that he is not in their plans for this season.

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    they said scola would not be part of the SPURS plan THIS year, because his buyout is still too high...didnt mention anything about trading his rights getting rid of scola...maybe he will make the transition next year with mahinmi.

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    they said scola would not be part of the SPURS plan THIS year, because his buyout is still too high...didnt mention anything about trading his rights getting rid of scola...maybe he will make the transition next year with mahinmi.
    That doesn't make any sense the most any NBA team can pay of a player's buyout is 500k so if he's willing to pay the rest it doesn't matter if it's $40 million or $3 million.

    "Another change in the new CBA raised the limit NBA teams can pay towards a buyout of an existing international league player's contract to $500,000 from $350,000. "

    http://www.pinnaclehoops.com/news.php?article=83

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    I think everybody kinda figured that.

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    They just don't think he is any good apparently. Or not as good as Manu and Nocioni.

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    That doesn't make any sense the most any NBA team can pay of a player's buyout is 500k so if he's willing to pay the rest it doesn't matter if it's $40 million or $3 million.

    "Another change in the new CBA raised the limit NBA teams can pay towards a buyout of an existing international league player's contract to $500,000 from $350,000. "

    http://www.pinnaclehoops.com/news.php?article=83
    So you expect him to pay from his pocket for the privilege to play in the NBA?

    If he has to pay 3M$ to his club he will not sign with an NBA team for less than say 4M$, so after he pays his own buyout he's still left with a million.

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    That doesn't make any sense the most any NBA team can pay of a player's buyout is 500k so if he's willing to pay the rest it doesn't matter if it's $40 million or $3 million.

    "Another change in the new CBA raised the limit NBA teams can pay towards a buyout of an existing international league player's contract to $500,000 from $350,000. "

    http://www.pinnaclehoops.com/news.php?article=83
    In order to make coming over worth his while -- i.e., to ensure that Scola gets paid something for the 2006-07 season, the Spurs would be forced (likely because Scola's reps would demand) to make his salary some amount in excess of his buyout. You could deduct the $500 K that the Spurs can contribute to the buyout, but the rest has to come from Scola which would seem to artificially inflate his salary demands. As such, the size of his payout is a pretty significant factor in deciding whether to bring him over at any point in time.

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    If they thought he was as good as Manu or Nocioni they would give him a 2 year $8 million deal-$4 million a year. Also maybe you two didn't notice that they gave Oberto, who was never first team All-Euroleague, $2.5 million a year just like Nocioni (who also didn't have Scola's accomplishments) probably got $2-3 million a year. If they thouht he was good they would give him that and bring him over.

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    If they thought he was as good as Manu or Nocioni they would give him a 2 year $8 million deal-$4 million a year. Also maybe you two didn't notice that they gave Oberto, who was never first team All-Euroleague, $2.5 million a year just like Nocioni (who also didn't have Scola's accomplishments) probably got $2-3 million a year. If they thouht he was good they would give him that and bring him over.
    Or maybe they have bigger fish to fry and don't want to spend all of their money on a position that they already have filled in order to let him play in the NBA.

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    Or maybe they have bigger fish to fry and don't want to spend all of their money on a position that they already have filled in order to let him play in the NBA.
    They gave Horry $4 million a year on a position they already had filled because they thought he was good. Besides they have talked about using Tim more at Center this year already. They just don't think he is very good imo.

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    I agree with just about everyone in here saying that they didnt think he was gonna come to San Antonio. It just became offical.

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    We just re-listened to the news report.

    All it said basically was that according to a report in Spain, the Spurs told Scola that he won't be in their plans this year. (WOAI didn't even hear it from the Spurs/Scola directly). Nothing was mentioned about possible trade or the following season or anything.

    Basically, no new news.

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    Oberto got a portion of the Spurs' MLE last summer (the remainder went to Finley) so the Spurs could offer him more than the league's minimum. The only way the Spurs can do that with Scola this summer is to divide up the MLE, which they don't appear inclined to do in their effort to obtain a center. There isn't the same salary spot to facilitate a deal for Scola unless you're willing to pay him almost all of the MLE.

    The Spurs were able to give Horry more money last summer because he was their free agent. In the summer of 2003 (when Horry was signed), they had significant cap room and could make bigger offers (though I thought Horry signed in 03 for the vet minimum -- I don't honestly recall).

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    They're very unlikely to get any kind of respectable center with their MLE they have to know that. If they thought he was any good they would bring him over and use a lineup to get their best players on the floor. Tim plays center all the time in the playoffs with Horry on the floor and played about 40 minutes a game at center versus the Mavs. They just don't think he is any good imo.

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    They're very unlikely to get any kind of respectable center with their MLE they have to know that. If they thought he was any good they would bring him over and use a lineup to get their best players on the floor. Tim plays all the time in the playoffs with Horry on the floor and played about 40 minutes a game at center versus the Mavs. They just don't think he is any good imo.
    They obviously don't think he's worth either (1) the MLE; or (2) a significant enough portion of the MLE to end the push to find a center using that money.

    If the Spurs think he can't help them in 2006-07 for a reasonable price, I'd say I'm pretty comfortable with that decision.

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    They obviously don't think he's worth either (1) the MLE; or (2) a significant enough portion of the MLE to end the push to find a center using that money.

    If the Spurs think he can't help them in 2006-07 for a reasonable price, I'd say I'm pretty comfortable with that decision.
    So we agree, they don't think he is worth that and don't think he is very good player like Nocioni or they would bring him over.

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    So we agree, they don't think he is worth that and don't think he is very good player like Nocioni or they would bring him over.
    True. I would tend to agree with the Spurs on this one; you must not or we wouldn't be having this discussion.

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    They gave Horry $4 million a year on a position they already had filled because they thought he was good. Besides they have talked about using Tim more at Center this year already. They just don't think he is very good imo.
    Um, Horry had proven in the playoffs that he could be the man, and he was the perfect compliment to Tim's inside game come the fourth quarter.

    What the has Scola done to warrant 4.5 million a year, other than sign a dumbass contract with Tau?

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    True. I would tend to agree with the Spurs on this one; you must not or we wouldn't be having this discussion.
    I think he will be good, he was obviously very good in Europe. I think the Spurs have a low opinion of him like we both said.

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    Um, Horry had proven in the playoffs that he could be the man, and he was the perfect compliment to Tim's inside game come the fourth quarter.

    What the has Scola done to warrant 4.5 million a year, other than sign a dumbass contract with Tau?
    Garbajosa is supposedly getting $4 million a year to come here, Oberto got $2.5 million/year, and Nocioni probably got $2-3 million. Scola had much better numbers and accomplishments in Europe. I guess his stock is just very, very low around the NBA now it baffles me as to why.

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    I watched the Newscast at 5:20 on WOAI and David Chancellor broke zero news. It's just stuff that has been in the blogs. In fact, he made it sound like his team in Spain was one waiting 3 days. It was actually Scola who asked them to wait 3 more days.

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