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Hey, 4-18 in two years.
Is this good?
Just wondering. I'll almost take anyone at this point so I don't have to keep merging/locking topics.
People are simply pointing out he doesn't hit jumpshots that well.
Hey, 4-18 in two years.
Is this good?
Just wondering. I'll almost take anyone at this point so I don't have to keep merging/locking topics.
On jumpers, Ariza is about 30% for his career while Jeffries is under 25%. Ariza's not a sharpshooter but Jeffries can only dunk it or sometimes he'll knock in a three.
Ariza reminds me a little bit of a young Sean Elliott. Elliott had one career three pointer before his 22nd birthday.
They're both trash from outside.
I'd take Ariza over Jeffries.
That's a good stat LJ. I'm just wondering where guys will be lining up in a Spurs offense. The three point line comes to mind, but that's me.
Ultimately I'd take either one.
Random thought:
Since Orlando is looking to trim cap space in the coming years, how about Eric Williams and cash (perhaps Scola) for Keyon Dooling or Carlos Arroyo and a sign-and-traded Trevor Ariza.
I don't know why the Magic would want three point guards and both Dooling and Arroyo have pretty bad contracts (2-years ~$8M) for a team looking to shed salary.
Why is Orlando trimming cap space? Grant Hill comes off the books next summer to the tune of $17M and they're still well under the luxury cap this year.
Arroyo seems to be the backup to Nelson they want.
Dooling-- why would the Spurs want him, especially at that contract? Simply to get Ariza? That would make Ariza tremendously expensive.
Dooling would be a pretty good point guard for the Spurs. He has size and can play defense.
BTW, the Magic are trimming salary to get way under the cap to go after a couple max free agents.
I hate to bring it up, but the "worst" contract they have is Hedo, and giving them Barry for Hedo allowing them to re-sign Ariza to a relatively short deal without giving a about Stevenson would almost be a perfect trade.
The knock on Dooling is extremely bad decision making. He's not a good point guard. Do you really see the Spurs paying this guy $7M/2 yrs after the penny pinching they've demonstrated lately?
Orlando would not be well served with a couple of max free agents, if that is their desire. With Howard needing touches and possibly Milicic, too, they should beware of cluttering their roster with would-be stars.
I think the Magic would be interested in Barry more than any of our other bench players...they have zero shooting and not much experience at the guard spots.
Let Barry mentor Red for a couple of years and then his contract is up(the same year a bunch of their contracts are set to be up).
Barry could definitely help the Magic make a playoff run this year.
And contrary to what many Spursfans might think...Barry never gets left open by other teams, not even in the playoffs. He'll help keep the paint clear for Howard quite a bit...
I wonder how pissed Big Otis still is at the Rockets trading him in 94-95...something like that might weigh in how much he is willing to help us.
Wrong Otis.
Ah, it's late/early.
If he's being used primarily as a PF in a small ball line up he's not necessarily going to be lining up at the 3...
And even if he does...driving from the 3 line is the absolute best part of his game.
Pop doesn't really like the Spurs doing nothing but standing out there taking threes, he never has, but he really doesn't like it now...go take a look at the Mavs series.
Things have changed...the offense is not built around Duncan liked it used to be and Pop has shown quite a bit of flexibility on offense. This isn't the same big man surrounded a by a bunch of spot up shooters team that is used to be...
Because me believe me...we had shooters coming out the wazoo this season...the best shooter squad we have ever had.
LMAO...I've been sitting here thinking Otis Thorpe every time I read Otis Smith since the day he became the full GM.
That didn't convince me either way.
I'll take one of them and be happy.
Point is...shooting isn't what it used to be on this team, and it's understandable why. Notice who it is saying this to you...
Looking at the teams that are going to be challenging us for the next couple of years, lack of a strong perimeter shot should not deter us from going after a dude that is a potential stud in every other aspect of the game...be it Jeffries or Ariza.
AJ snuffs our 3 shooting and Phoenix has a such a soft inside why would you want to try to outshoot them?
And I think Ariza is both better(physically) and more easily attained than Jeffries.
Ariza dunk (with Knicks):
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Last edited by ChumpDumper; 07-06-2006 at 11:48 AM.
That must have been freaky.
If Otis Thorpe was a GM, he's not a guy you'd want to argue with. Bro was fierce in his prime.
hey does this count as 3pts, a person say bowen drives/takesoff at 3pt line, and when his about to land, lands on duncan and td piggy him to the ring and scores the basket......
LOL...good question
technically as long as a player jumps from behind the 3 point arc and releases the ball before landing it would be a 3 pointer
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