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I like Ariza. I hope the Spurs can get him if he's available.
This guy makes a whole lot of sense for the Spurs. He's a 6-foot-8 small forward with long arms who can really rebound the ball. He can't shoot yet but then again, he just turned 21. The Spurs need rebounders and this guy is one of the best perimeter rebounders plus he fills a need as a young swingman.
He's a restricted free agent but the Magic don't want to spend a lot of money keeping him because they are trying to move under the cap in upcoming seasons. Along with players like Reggie Evans and Jackie Butler, this should be a guy the Spurs are really trying get.
I like Ariza. I hope the Spurs can get him if he's available.
overpay him.
he comes to SA.
simple as that.
-signed LJ
How much would it take to get him? I like him over Jeffries and he would be a cheaper option.
who would u rather spend MLE on ? arizor or jeffries?
Ariza is off the charts when it comes to defense and rebounding.
With Orlando, he averaged 11.2 rebounds per 40 minutes. His rebounding rate of 17.2 is that of a center in the league (just below that of Mohammed and Duncan). He's a good player to use at power forward in a small ball lineup because he can get out on the perimeter and defend and still come in and rebound the ball.
Speaking of defense, that is where Ariza shines. Everywhere he's been, teams have been drastically better defensively with him on the court. With Orlando, the Magic gave up 5.7 less points per 100 possessions with Ariza on the court. In the first half of the season with the Knicks, it was 5 less points. In 2004-05 with the Knicks, New York's defense was also 5 points better per 100 possessions.
If the Spurs can get this guy he'd help in the rebounding department and then would eventually become the Bruce Bowen replacement.
Tough to know how much it'd cost to get him. He's a restricted free agent, so that automatically lowers his stock. If you offer him a multi-year deal starting between $2M and $3M, you may have a shot at stealing him.
It's a longshot, though. The Spurs have never gotten a restricted free agent in franchise history.
Perhaps an easier route would be a sign and trade but I don't know what the Magic would want. Perhaps Scola, a re-signed Melvin Sanders and cash?
Haven't seen enough of him, so I would prefer Jeffries.
Especially if this guys shot is as poor as advertised.
Then again
You guys remember Malik's jumper when he came to the Spurs? If that could be fixed/taught then I guess anything is possible.
His shot isn't as bad as Jeffries.
Maybe not, but Jeffries is bigger. I think I'd rather have Ariza though, because he's a good defender, long, and very young. He can be taught a whole lot.
BTW, check your PM box, timvp.
Nice call LJ, sign him up.
If we could prise away Ariza and Jackie Butler for half the MLE each, then trade assets for a third PG (or sign one for the vet min), I'd call that a successful offseason. We'd have our big banger, our long defensive 3 and our veteran point.
Is Jackie Butler a free agent, restricted, or what? He's 21, big, and looks strong. I like that.
it sure would be nice if the Spurs could get him. Dude can rebound and defend....that's all we need....for now
Restricted free agent like Ariza. The Knicks could let Butler walk since they have 14 players under contract already.
Nice call LJ, sign him up.
If we could prise away Ariza and Jackie Butler for half the MLE each, then trade assets for a third PG (or sign one for the vet min), I'd call that a successful offseason. We'd have our big banger, our long defensive 3 and our veteran point.
Well technically...if we do what you just said, we still have Barry...which makes him our 3rd PG.
By the way...good idea TimVP.
And don't forget...Ariza can slam dunk like a mofo.
Yeah, I'm not opposed to keeping Barry either.
TP/Beno/Barry
Manu/Finley/Barry
Bowen/Williams/Ariza
Duncan/Bonner/Horry
Butler/Javtokas/Oberto
Man, that looks like a very good squad to me.
Wonder if it's realistic?
Offer 3 million to Ariza, 2 million to Butler, and I think it's very realistic.
I can see our front office passing up on all these long 3's and pop trying to beg Spree to join the Spurs for half or most of the MLE. Id be shocked if the Front office actually brought in a young long 3 rather then a 36 year old short 3 who needs to feed his family
I'm not entirely sure Jackie Butler deserves to be making 2 million per...the guy is definitely still a project.
I don't think Oberto deserves 2.5 million either, but hey, if it gets him here...
I watched him play a lot in New York and some in Orlando. He has good talent, hustles, and would be a great bench player. He's inconsistent, disappears, and makes boneheaded plays sometimes. I'm also not sure if he's y and thinks he's better than he is. Nevertheless, he'd be great off the bench for any team. I don't think he'll get much better than that.
How expensive is it to get a bench player? I'd be for it.
I don't know how anyone could say that when Trevor has only made four of eighteen three pointers in his two-year career.
Forty of one hundred and thirty-seven in four years seems like it's better to me, but I'm so drunk I'm having trouble typing this sentence. Draw your own conclusion. I can't be trusted.
FYI - I do like Ariza. I'm just asking a question about 3pt shooting.
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