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    If they were going to match anyone, you would think it would be Qyntel.
    Qyntel is unrestricted.

    I have no clue if they will match.

    It will depend on a lot of things : James shape, Lee at PF or SF, will they keep Ime Udoka, trades done by Thomas, amount of Spurs offer for Butler....

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    R. Balkman
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    I don't see Butler on that list. Doesn't he count?

    Also, a question: do rookies count yet? I'm guessing even not signed they take up roster slots.

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    thanks kori

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    I don't see Butler on that list. Doesn't he count?

    Also, a question: do rookies count yet? I'm guessing even not signed they take up roster slots.
    Butler doesn't count right now because he's a free agent.

    Collins and Balkman, their rookies, have already signed I believe.

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    They have to do it within seven days and cannot ever have more than 15 players under contract.
    In the offseason, I don't believe that is true. IIRC, you can have as many players as you want as long as you trim your roster by the day before the season starts.

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    In the offseason, I don't believe that is true. IIRC, you can have as many players as you want as long as you trim your roster by the day before the season starts.
    Then they match. That seems clear.

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    Then they match. That seems clear.
    If they use their MLE or re-sign Woods, they'd have to waive a guaranteed contract at some point if they were to match on Butler. That might be too much for the Knicks to swallow.

    Hopefully.


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    Butler also seems -bent to get out of there (who blames him?). I wonder if he can smash a vase in Isiah's office or such.

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    It's all up to Dolan now. In previous years I would've said he didn't give a about paying another $6 million for Butler, but now I'm not sure.

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    It kinda seems like the Knicks are trying to turn around their ship and Isiah doesn't like it that it looks like they just waste money. Perhaps they'll let Butler walk and Isiah will chalk it up to the new Knicks who are responsible ... like the Spurs.

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    it says the spurs offerered them contracts, doesnt that mean that they havent even signed anything yet?

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    And knicks are in the Luxury tax area, butler will cost twice his salary to Dolan...

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    it says the spurs offerered them contracts, doesnt that mean that they havent even signed anything yet?
    It's just the wording. They've agreed to the contracts. They won't be "signed" until New York and Denver decide whether to match or not.

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    I'd like to see us get Butler, he is only 21 and is a big man. Hopefully Isiah makes another stupid trade and runs out of money.

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    my guess is that knicks try to pry something back from the spurs.

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    It's just the wording. They've agreed to the contracts. They won't be "signed" until New York and Denver decide whether to match or not.
    yeah ludden said those teams have 7 days to decide so they mustve accepted the offer sheets.

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    Is this guy even any good???? I have never even see Jackie Browns nemesis Jackie Butlar even play? If he is a project why are we going to start him then??? Javtokas is someone we could of really used but these are 2 below average bigs that dont seem to be good at all

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    my guess is that knicks try to pry something back from the spurs.
    no picks

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    http://www.morningjournal.com/site/n...id=46370&rfi=6

    In other free agent news, the Knicks will probably match any reasonable offer sheet signed by backup center Jackie Butler.

    ''We like Jackie,'' Knicks coach Isiah Thomas told the New York Post. ''We want to keep him, but it's a long summer. Our intention is to re-sign him."
    http://www.greenwichtime.com/sports/...y-knicks-print

    Agent David Lee, who represents former Knicks small forward Trevor Ariza, said Thomas had contacted him, but Thomas indicated there is no room on the roster to bring back Ariza, who plays the same position as top draft pick Renaldo Balkman.

    If the Knicks sign anyone, it will be their own restricted free-agent center Jackie Butler.

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    Butler will be a Spur. Dude don't wanna play for the Knicks and signed the sheet with the Spurs.

    Even if the Knicks match he doesn't have to accept it.

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    Butler will be a Spur. Dude don't wanna play for the Knicks and signed the sheet with the Spurs.

    Even if the Knicks match he doesn't have to accept it.
    Yes he does.

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    Uh, yeah, he does.

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    Is this guy even any good???? I have never even see Jackie Browns nemesis Jackie Butlar even play? If he is a project why are we going to start him then??? Javtokas is someone we could of really used but these are 2 below average bigs that dont seem to be good at all
    He's good. He has 15 points and 10 rebounds per game type potential.

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    He can request for them not to match, though. Hopefully we land him.

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    He can request for them not to match, though. Hopefully we land him.
    Every restricted free agent makes the request. 90% of them get matched anyways.

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