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  1. 07-17-2006 #26
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    I don't think anyone here is jealous of a huckster who's victims are gulible sheep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xrayzebra
    ^^Have it your way. You will with or without my permission.

    Have a nice day and week. I have no quarrel with you or your religion, about
    religion.

    One think I feel sure of: When the day of judgement does come, I think that you
    will find people of all faiths there. Christians, Jews and Muslims or whatever.
    I think you will find the bible says there is only one unforgivable sin. Not believing
    in God. How someone finds God is very personal and no man can be the judge
    of that. My final word.

    Settle down... I was addressing the fact that calling the posters in here envious or jealous of Hagee would solve nothing.

    With regards to what you just wrote, I agree with some of it.... but I believe that JESUS is the only path to the Father... and so I find it highly unlikely that prac ioners of Islam... who's very creed denounces JESUS' divinity will find themselves along that path (just my opinion)... as for Messianic Jews, Catholics, Methodists, Episcopalians, Baptists, Pentecostals etc... yeah... we will see many of them in Heaven irregardless of the trivial differences in non-critical doctrines...
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  3. 07-17-2006 #28
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    Yep, I guess Islam is the only one that got it wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clambake
    Yep, I guess Islam is the only one that got it wrong.

    Jehova's Witnesses, Mormons...

    BTW none of the other denominations mentioned above are 100% free of doctrinal error.... with regards to the one critical truth however... they all believe JESUS is the exclusive way to the Father.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clambake
    I don't think anyone here is jealous of a huckster who's victims are gulible sheep.
    NbadAn?
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    It is your belief that makes your God exist.

    It is their belief that makes their God exist.

    The score is tied. Going into overtime. Neither team has the advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clambake
    It is your belief that makes your God exist.

    It is their belief that makes their God exist.

    The score is tied. Going into overtime. Neither team has the advantage.

    Simplistic view... simplistic conclusion...

    There's a little more to it than that....
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    Very little. What's left is in the mind of the beholder.

    To say your God is THE God is laughable.
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    To say your God is THE God is laughable.
    Why?

    Frankly, I'd question the strength of someone's faith if they thought that because other people believe in other gods, those gods must also exist.

    You don't have to believe in the Christian God, but if you do, it follows that you should believe He is the One True God, since He said He is.
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    He said that huh? Are you having a converstion with him now?

    If so , would you ask him about these other Gods so we can clear this up once and for all?
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    "you should believe He is the One True God, since He said He is"

    Well, that's just political posturing and group psychology.

    When a group is recruiting members, they are interested in having high barriers to membership, and in denigrating other groups and creeds.

    It's just not politically expedient for a relgious group to say their God and selected beliefs are not only God/religion/worldview. That's politically weak because it allows for e enical credence in other Gods/religions/worldviews, absolutely the last thing a political religious group wants to do.

    Of course, these "We're Number One" religious types have been programmed to believe that their religion is 100% pure, true, and exclusive of all other religions, and has no political history or objectives. And the biggest political hustle and recruiting tool is that outside of Christ, you go to for eternity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xrayzebra
    I am just wondering. Why is everyone so upset about Hagee? Doesn't he have
    his congregation? Are they upset?

    Is it that some on this board are very, very jealous or envious?

    It is just a thought.

    One thing more, do you really think he or his congregation cares what you think?
    I am not upset about this guy.

    He is a good subject for satire and a bit of scorn.

    Charismatic leaders always have followers who will blindly believe in them, no matter what, so it doestn' surprise me that he still has an ardent congregation.

    But the rest of us have enough information to see him for what he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clambake
    He said that huh? Are you having a converstion with him now?

    If so , would you ask him about these other Gods so we can clear this up once and for all?

    Why? Just to satisfy YOUR own lack of faith... He doesn't work that way. If He did we would all be robots, or drones, for lack of a better word... the fact is you are free to believe in whatever suits your fancy... if you don't believe in GOD that is your perogative....

    What we believe will happen to you however is irrelevant and inconsequential to the fact that you yourself don't believe it... so why bother fretting over something you consider false? Do what you please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boutons_
    "you should believe He is the One True God, since He said He is"

    Well, that's just political posturing and group psychology.

    When a group is recruiting members, they are interested in having high barriers to membership, and in denigrating other groups and creeds.

    It's just not politically expedient for a relgious group to say their God and selected beliefs are not only God/religion/worldview. That's politically weak because it allows for e enical credence in other Gods/religions/worldviews, absolutely the last thing a political religious group wants to do.

    Of course, these "We're Number One" religious types have been programmed to believe that their religion is 100% pure, true, and exclusive of all other religions, and has no political history or objectives. And the biggest political hustle and recruiting tool is that outside of Christ, you go to for eternity.
    ''ignore the hate''
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    YOUR beliefs have a way of infecting Americas way of life. Stick to cramming it down the throats of YOUR fellow robots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clambake
    YOUR beliefs have a way of infecting Americas way of life. Stick to cramming it down the throats of YOUR fellow robots.

    If by 'infecting' you mean taking care of the poor and needy, widows, and orphans... then by all accounts yes. Otherwise drop the act. No one is cramming anything down your throat...
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    So these are all deeds you wouldn't perform if it weren't for God?

    That's interesting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by clambake
    So these are all deeds you wouldn't perform if it weren't for God?

    That's interesting!

    No.... striving to be Christ-like compels me to do them while trying to learn that my needs shouldn't always be the most important thing. Other people do it only with spare money or time... or to get tax-breaks -- I try for that not to be the case in my personal case...

    But you still haven't shown me how we are 'infecting' others... especially when the palette of words you could have used included 'influence', 'shape', 'mold'... your word choice was rather negative in connotation... which precluded the latter half of your argument to hold any weight other than that of an opinion.
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    Anyway, I'm out... I have some work I have to get to...
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    Quote Originally Posted by clambake
    He said that huh? Are you having a converstion with him now?

    If so , would you ask him about these other Gods so we can clear this up once and for all?

    He said it in the Bible, and I believe the Bible to be true. Thus, I believe God is the only God.

    It's not that difficult to understand.
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    Well, that's just political posturing and group psychology.
    No, it's Scripture.
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    What some of you don't understand is that God did not create man.

    Man created God.
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    "Scripture."

    ... yep, YOUR Scripture, and like everybody's "Scripture", human intellect and critical thinking are extinguished.

    Surely "God" gave us an intellect so that it could extinguished so facilely?
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    No, not MY Scripture... the Scripture of the Christian religion. The Bible.

    If I believe Scripture to be true (and written by God through men), and Scripture tells me God is the only true God, then I believe it.

    A = B, B = C, thus A = C.

    There's nothing anti-intellectual about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clambake
    What some of you don't understand is that God did not create man.

    Man created God.

    wHOa!!!!!!!!

    You are so deep.
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