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Butler would be one of the few game-changing talents we have on our bench, with Finley being the other (at times). I can see him being a guy the other team has no answers for in stretches.
Yeah, and that screwy playoff seeding didnt have anything to do with exiting the second round in particular
Spurs-Mavs series was the WCF and we all know it. They were, and still are IMO, the two best teams in the west.
I think we all know by now you think the Spurs have gotten worse since last season, since you post it in every thread *shrug*... Just curious, dont you have a Mavs forum to go to bag on the Spurs?
Butler would be one of the few game-changing talents we have on our bench, with Finley being the other (at times). I can see him being a guy the other team has no answers for in stretches.
I will answer questions
I don't bag on the Spurs, I tell it as I see it. If saying the Spurs are a second round team is baging on them ... Then I am guilty of speaking the truth.I think we all know by now you think the Spurs have gotten worse since last season, since you post it in every thread *shrug*... Just curious, dont you have a Mavs forum to go to bag on the Spurs?
i understand, but it will not be a long season if he doesn't come here, unless getting the 4th seed (i'm not saying that's where we'll be, that's where i think we get no lower then the 4rd seed regardless of what happens) in the playoffs is a long season for you
There's a lot of negatives in there. You're saying it will be a long season regardless of whether Butler is here, right?
no, i'm saying it won't be a long season no matter what happens with butler, unless for YOU a long season means getting the 4th seed
Yes, equating the Spurs to teams like the Clippers and Bulls is not bagging on them. Geez, the Spurs sure did drop off didnt they?
How come you didnt respond to the part about the PO seeding? You know, the PO seeding that is supposed to be getting fixed this upcoming season... so hopefully the two best teams in the west/east dont meet in the second round.
The Mavs are a one-hit wonder. Dirk will go back to his lederhosen-hearing choking self and Cuban will cry on the sidelines.
The Suns are counting on that dumb oaf Stodemire to carry them. Ha. With his knee noe thwyre going to count on his decision making. Goofd luck with that.
The Spurs are fine and will win in 07!!!!!!!!
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2003 was supposed to be a rebuilding year before the season started. No one thought Tony would continue to improve at the rate that he did. No one thought Robinson would be able to give anything in his last year. No one expected out of SJax. No one even knew Manu Ginobili's name.
To answer your question, as unlikely as it may seem, these guys could be the '07 champs. They've done it before with less. I'd say the Mavs' future is more uncertain, what with the pernicious seed of doubt planted deeply in their minds and everything.
Steve Kerr and Robert Horry might disagree with you.
The Spurs have had center play for 3 years, and now they face the possiblity of getting same said center play for a cheap price. Sue them.
Tim Duncan + 2 All Star guards = 1 or 2 seed for the next four years.
Steve Kerr and Robert Horry generally pick the right team to play on to utilize their talents and contributions. Put them on Memphis or Denver, and they ain't winning .
Equating them to other second round teams that lost does not seem reasonable? That is were they lost, maybe you have forgotten that. As for the Spurs "dropping off" depends on your perspective. If a Championship is the target, then "drop off" might be correct.Yes, equating the Spurs to teams like the Clippers and Bulls is not bagging on them. Geez, the Spurs sure did drop off didnt they?
Because I said I would wouldn't post on this thread ... unless asked a question.How come you didnt respond to the part about the PO seeding? You know, the PO seeding that is supposed to be getting fixed this upcoming season... so hopefully the two best teams in the west/east dont meet in the second round.
The seedings needed to be fixed, the road to the Finals should not be a Home court first round - Visiting team second round - Home court third round. That made no sense what so ever.
Yes, I realize that, but when someone makes the claim that role players don't win or lose championships, you have to look at '03 WCF Game 6 and '05 Finals Game 5 and wonder if the Spurs would have gotten their trophies without those two mother ers nailing big threes. I think almost anyone would say that the Spurs would have been sunk without those role players stepping up. But regardless, no free agent available to us was that type of role player, so it doesn't really matter.
The Spurs have 3 stars and might do well whatever scrubs are found. In fact, during the regular season they will do well. Around 60 wins is pretty much a given.
However, if you thinking the Spurs need more small ball/quickness to matchup vs. the Mavs or Suns, then only maybe Bonner might help. Another one or two centers to play 15 minutes per playoff series is not going to get it done. The Spurs need someone Diaw-like or Halsem/Posey-like and there is next to nothing around or coming for that to happen.
Thats what I am trying to say ... thank you. The team is not addressing what got it booted in the playoffs .... Its like they are looking only at the regular season and hoping that what happened in last years playoffs doesn't happen again.However, if you thinking the Spurs need more small ball/quickness to matchup vs. the Mavs or Suns, then only maybe Bonner might help. Another one or two centers to play 15 minutes per playoff series is not going to get it done. The Spurs need someone Diaw-like or Halsem/Posey-like and there is next to nothing around or coming for that to happen.
I have some bad news, this is a copy-cat league. The Spurs are going to see alot of small ball all season and in the playoffs.
The biggest concern is that the Spurs did not adddress their most pressing needs-- rebounding, a long 3, a better back-up PG,... instead they got rid of their centers for financial reasons and had to us the MLE to replace them instead of to make the team better.
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And for saying this I get called a "troll"
Look, the big three + Bowen played out of their minds in the Mavs series. I think in one game Parker, Duncan and Manu combined for 100 points, if not more.
You cannot ask anymore from them and realistically expect to get it ... and they lost.
This means that you need something more then the those four ... and you get Bonner, Butler (a center that wont play in a Mavs match-up), Elson (a center that wont play in a Mavs match-up) and Williams another 30+ year old.
If the spurs copy-cat anyone i hope they copy-cat what the heat did, small ball didn't win again.
We're getting Shaq?
Alright!
We didn't play small ball vs the heat (by the way, we call it speed ball. We keep our center and PF on the floor)If the spurs copy-cat anyone i hope they copy-cat what the heat did, small ball didn't win again.
What the Heat did was have a star carry them to four wins almost single handedly .. All credit to Wade ... He was great.
Calm down, that would put you over the Cap ... we know that aint going to happenWe're getting Shaq?
Alright!
I was speaking of the spurs playing small ball
Yes, cap implications -- that's the reason we won't get Shaq this offseason.
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