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    Wow why do u guys hate Shaq soo much? You're always talking about how the rings matter the most....well Shaq has 4 rings(more than Duncan), and 3 Finals MVP's....not to include that he has a higher career scoring average, higher career Blocks per game, and higher career FG%....while Duncan takes assists. rebounds by .2 and FT%.....now how is he supposed to be ranked ahead of Shaq??
    I found that humorous as well. Spurs fans (actually any fans of teams/players with multiple les/rings) only pull out the "ring card" when it fits their argument.

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    i love everything on Earth since i created it all.
    Good!

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    I found that humorous as well. Spurs fans (actually any fans of teams/players with multiple les/rings) only pull out the "ring card" when it fits their argument.
    yes i did find that particularly funny. after the Mavs won the series the only thing they could say was "3 rings, 3 rings, 3rings!" as if it actually mattered anymore.

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    I found that humorous as well. Spurs fans (actually any fans of teams/players with multiple les/rings) only pull out the "ring card" when it fits their argument.
    It's a nice card to go to that shows Duncan has carried his team to the top of the mountain multiple times. How is it not relevant, when Tim's a little more than one year removed from his last championship?

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    I found that humorous as well. Spurs fans (actually any fans of teams/players with multiple les/rings) only pull out the "ring card" when it fits their argument.
    -Shaq can't win a championship without a Kobe or Wade propping him up.
    -Shaq has played 14 years. Discounting the lockout, he has played less than 75 games in NINE out of THIRTEEN years. He's a China Doll/bloated fat boy.
    -Shaq has been on the All-Defensive team a grand total of three times; none of them first-team. Duncan has 6 first-team and 3 second-team selections.
    I find it humorous how 99% of Mav Fans can't read or contribute intelligently to any basketball discussion.

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    Kevin Garnett should be higher. Much better than 42.
    Where is Benard King?

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    Where is Benard King?
    Most likely?

    Rehab.

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    My friend swears the only reason Shaq made the orginal Top50 was because of what he was going to do in the league.
    That's exactly right. Shaq in no way deserved to be on the original top 50 team. He had only been in the league a couple of years. He absolutely deserves to be very high on the new one.

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    yep ... he had only been in the league about 3.. maybe 4 years at that point... they chose him instead of other deserving candidates solely based on what he might do... if he had had a career ending injury the year after ... no way he belongs on the top 50, but now he does and for obvious reasons.

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    I've got no problem with Shaq over Duncan, a choke artist like Malone on the other hand, not so much...

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    D rob is the and ranked to low, he had a seventy point game and a quad double was probably the second best player in the NBA during his prime but only cause he played when Jordan (number one) did, and wasnt he Shaqs role model growin up.

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    D rob is the and ranked to low, he had a seventy point game and a quad double was probably the second best player in the NBA during his prime but only cause he played when Jordan (number one) did, and wasnt he Shaqs role model growin up.

    2nd best player during his prime? That's a joke, get off the dudes .

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    he has an argument ... during the early - mid 90's DRob was a beast. I know there were other great players during that time as well... but an argument could be made that 5-0 was the 2nd best player out of em....

    i dont think he meant best nba player ever.

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    he has an argument ... during the early - mid 90's DRob was a beast. I know there were other great players during that time as well... but an argument could be made that 5-0 was the 2nd best player out of em....

    i dont think he meant best nba player ever.
    Watching D-Rob play in the early 90's was what made me start cheering for the Spurs. His speed for a big was amazing! I agree and will not say he is the best player ever, but he is def my fav player ever.

    I also remember Shaq challenging Drob to a charity boxing match when Drob beat him for the scoring le. Drob would have destoryed Shaq!

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    2nd best player during his prime? That's a joke, get off the dudes .

    You lost your Anti-David argument in a 30 page thread... drop it already....

    And if you can't at least accept the fact that Robinson was immensely underrated well then accept the fact that THIS IS A SPURS FORUM.

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    he has an argument ... during the early - mid 90's DRob was a beast. I know there were other great players during that time as well... but an argument could be made that 5-0 was the 2nd best player out of em....

    i dont think he meant best nba player ever.
    If you were to average what he did through his prime you could probably make the case that he was statistically the second best player through that period pretty easily. That said, 50 was never actually the second best player in the NBA at any given time. His complete lack of success in the playoffs will seal him from going higher on most lists as a result. Timmy getting him a couple of rings is good for a few spots he doesn't deserve, but that's it.

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    @ Karl Malone getting ranked at #12, while Stockton is #25.

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    Oh, and I'd take Tim Duncan over Karl Malone any day of the week. Karl Malone was one of the biggest chokers, ever. Yet, NBA "historians" always seem to forget this. They also seem to forget that he had arguably one of the Top 3 PG's in the HISTORY of the league playing next to him, feeding him the ball.

    Which leads me to...where's the Great Steve Nash, 2 time back to back MVP, on this list????

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    Which leads me to...where's the Great Steve Nash, 2 time back to back MVP, on this list????
    The judges disqualified him after they got a look at his latest buzzcut.

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    Oh, and I'd take Tim Duncan over Karl Malone any day of the week. Karl Malone was one of the biggest chokers, ever. Yet, NBA "historians" always seem to forget this. They also seem to forget that he had arguably one of the Top 3 PG's in the HISTORY of the league playing next to him, feeding him the ball.

    Which leads me to...where's the Great Steve Nash, 2 time back to back MVP, on this list????
    I'd rank Duncan over Malone but I don't understand why you consider Malone a choker? He & Stockton led the Jazz to 2 NBA finals (lost to Jordan's Bulls like every other team did) and had much success. I'm not a Jazz fan and I never really liked Malone (thought he was kind of a jerk) but I don't see the choker label applying here.

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    They also seem to forget that he had arguably one of the Top 3 PG's in the HISTORY of the league playing next to him, feeding him the ball.
    Speaking of forgetful, I'm having a problem thinking of two point guards who are or were better than Stockton.

    I'd rank Duncan over Malone but I don't understand why you consider Malone a choker? He & Stockton led the Jazz to 2 NBA finals (lost to Jordan's Bulls like every other team did) and had much success. I'm not a Jazz fan and I never really liked Malone (thought he was kind of a jerk) but I don't see the choker label applying here.
    If Karl Malone is a choker I shudder to think what that makes David Robinson.

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    Speaking of forgetful, I'm having a problem thinking of two point guards who are or were better than Stockton.
    Magic was pretty good. I've heard Cousy was really good but never saw him play. I'm having a hard time as well thinking of others better than Stockton.

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    I was thinking Magic, obviously...and I said arguably top 3 because I figured there would be people who would find at least another PG better than Stockton (Kidd, Nash, Cousy, etc. ). Anyways, the point was, Malone at 12 and Stockton all the way at 25 just doesn't make sense.

    As for Malone being a choker? The Mailman don't deliver on Sundays...

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    Which leads me to...where's the Great Steve Nash, 2 time back to back MVP, on this list????
    Man, how did miss the opportunity to wail on that one?

    I guess they decided they didn't want to have to explain the only b2b MVP to never reach the Finals.

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    Man, how did miss the opportunity to wail on that one?

    I guess they decided they didn't want to have to explain the only b2b MVP to never reach the Finals.
    Exactly...I'm still pissed he won the award last season. Unbelievable...he's not even in the freakin Top 50 of all time, yet he joins rare company on that list to win back to back league MVP's.

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